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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    I guess everybody was so busy looking for the Quick Rant Reply button that they missed this little detail.



    So SS couples get the same legal framework and protections that OS couples get. So what's the problem? Unless it's not really legal protections proponents of SSM were after in the first place...
    So then why try and change it?
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Separate but equal is unconstitutional.
    Segregation is not at issue here. Will homosexuals have civil unions in separate homosexual only courthouses? Hell, they can even use the same form from NH, just check off one box for civil union and one for marriage. Any church that wishes to marry them can marry both SS couples and opposite sex couples, they would not be required by government to have two separate places for marriage.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    So then why try and change it?
    That's my question.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Segregation is not at issue here. Will homosexuals have civil unions in separate homosexual only courthouses? Hell, they can even use the same form from NH, just check off one box for civil union and one for marriage. Any church that wishes to marry them can marry both SS couples and opposite sex couples, they would not be required by government to have two separate places for marriage.

    Go fish.
    Segregation isn't limited to objects and buildings. You're segregating a right. And what the hell is so important about not calling it marriage. If you're gonna give it the exact same entitlements and benefits, then just call it marriage. Enough with the appeal to tradition. It's getting old.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Segregation isn't limited to objects and buildings. You're segregating a right.
    ...and if they can exercise that right anywhere anyplace anytime they want to...then what, exactly is the issue?
    And what the hell is so important about not calling it marriage.
    ...and what the hell is so important about calling it marriage, since marriage, up to this point, did not include SS couples? Now we get to the heart of the matter. It never was about equal treatment, it was about co-opting the word. Thanks for showing all your cards.

    And if were gonna play a card game, it's gonna be Texas Hold 'Em.
    Since you advocate SSM, I figured you would want to play Gay Gordons

    Enough with the appeal to tradition. It's getting old.
    Well duh.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    That's my question.
    That's our question. Why if it's only a name fight so hard against it? You all just look like children when you try to deny SSM.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

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    what the hell is so important about calling it marriage, since marriage, up to this point, did not include SS couples? Now we get to the heart of the matter. It never was about equal treatment, it was about co-opting the word. Thanks for showing all your cards.
    Nice assumption there buddy.
    If a gay couple wants to say "We're married", then why the hell can't they?
    Since you advocate SSM, I figured you would want to play Gay Gordons
    I only play that on Sundays.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Separate but equal is unconstitutional.
    Yeah that.

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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    That's our question. Why if it's only a name fight so hard against it? You all just look like children when you try to deny SSM.
    So why, if it's only a name fight, isn't the rights and protections of civil unions more important? If a compromise is reached where one side gets the rights and protections they claim they want and the other side gets to keep the name...why is that not good enough? I've already disproven that segregation is not the issue.
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    Re: New Hampshire to vote on gay marriage repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    If a gay couple wants to say "We're married", then why the hell can't they?
    They can say it all they want.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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