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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

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    As this term comes from the birther silliness, can I conclude you're a birther?

    Don't be foolish...Just a tongue in cheek joust....

    Otherwise, it's just silly, like calling Bush Shrub.

    I'll go back and take a look at what I can find, but I don't recall you EVER telling a lib to not use that term....

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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

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    Domain laws have got to be one of the more reprehensible laws on the books for me personally, If Obama was smart he would use that as an argument against the project instead of environmental concerns, he'd probably win a little more sympathy.
    He probably could win more sympathy. There is some support to change eminent domain laws to ban private companies from using eminent domain.
    House tries to rewrite eminent domain rules - CBS News
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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Don't be foolish...Just a tongue in cheek joust....




    I'll go back and take a look at what I can find, but I don't recall you EVER telling a lib to not use that term....

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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Hare View Post
    Interesting, although keystone wouldn't exactly cure our "dependence" as some would suggest, it seems like a no-brainer from most people's perspective. The republicans will milk this one for all it's worth.
    It would create jobs. Seems worth it to me.
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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would create jobs. Seems worth it to me.
    I don't think its worth it if a company is basically allowed to take property through eminent domain.
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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I don't think its worth it if a company is basically allowed to take property through eminent domain.
    They're not taking the property. The land owner still keeps the property. It's just got a pipeline running under it.

    IMO, it's very selfish of any landowner to oppose having this pipeline run through his property.
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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're not taking the property. The land owner still keeps the property. It's just got a pipeline running under it.

    IMO, it's very selfish of any landowner to oppose having this pipeline run through his property.
    Gee those selfish owners and their property rights. What the hell do you think a property right IS exactly? Landowners have the right to be selfish, its their land.

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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    President Obama is going to fast track the southern potion of the Keystone Pipeline:


    President Barack Obama plans to announce in Cushing, Oklahoma, on Thursday that his administration will expedite the permit for the southern half of the Keystone XL pipeline, a source familiar with the president's announcement told CNN.
    Source: Obama to fast track southern portion of Keystone XL Pipeline The 1600 Report - CNN.com Blogs
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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Gee those selfish owners and their property rights. What the hell do you think a property right IS exactly? Landowners have the right to be selfish, its their land.

    I am not a huge fan of eminent domain, as carried out under the Kelo decision, however, this is far from that in my understanding. For instance, what if these owners were having their land used for a school, or a highway? Would a more traditional use then be ok?


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    Re: Petroleum producers plan presidential protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're not taking the property. The land owner still keeps the property. It's just got a pipeline running under it.

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us...pagewanted=all
    A Canadian company has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.


    IMO, it's very selfish of any landowner to oppose having this pipeline run through his property
    No its not.Its his property.IF he doesn't want it on or underneath his property then that is his right. Its like say its very selfish of you if you don't let me sleep on your porch or park my car in your driveway.
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