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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Was someone like Robert Carlyle Byrd (Congressman) a racist?
    It is overplaying the race card.
    Here's a video of Bill Clinton EXPLAINING Robert Byrd's association with the KKK:

    Bill Clinton Explains Robert Byrd's Membership In KKK - YouTube

    ***
    "He once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means. He was a country boy from the hills and hollows from West Virginia. He was trying to get elected," former President Bill Clinton said of Sen. Robert Byrd.

    "And maybe he did something he shouldn't have done come and he spent the rest of his life making it up. And that's what a good person does. There are no perfect people. There are certainly no perfect politicians," he added.

    ***
    Robert Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan.

    In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.

    Each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops.

    He presides over the Council of the Centaurs.

    Writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant.

    In the Klan hierarchy, the Exalted Cyclops reports to:

    A Grand Giant, or provincial leader;

    A Grand Dragon, or state director;

    And the Grand Wizard, or national chair.

    Below the Cyclops were:

    The Grand Magi,

    The Grand Monk,

    The Grand Exchequer,

    The Grand Turk,

    The Exalted Cyclops' responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs--that's Klan-speak for a jury--to try and punish wayward Ghouls.

    In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:

    "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

    -- Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,

    In 1946 or 1947 Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating,"The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."

    Byrd joined with other Southern and border-state Democrats personally filibustering the bill for to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,14 hours, a move he later said he regretted. Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.

    ***
    Membership totals are hard to track, because the Klan doesn't willingly release member lists. Over the long term, the KKK is clearly contracting, since its rolls have shrunk from millions in the 1920s to between 3,000 and 5,000 today.

    (T)he Ku Klux Klan is losing chapters, according to data released on Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The number of KKK chapters dropped from 221 to 152 in just one year.

    Former KKK Grand Wizard Don Black in 1995 launched the website Stormfront, which enables individuals in the white supremacist movement to share ideas and read news stories reported from a racist perspective.

    Ku Klux Klan in decline: Why did the KKK lose so many chapters in 2010? - Slate Magazine

    ***
    In August 2008 Black's 19-year-old son Derek was elected to one of 111 seats on the Palm Beach County, Fla., Republican committee, with 167 of 287 votes. The committee has refused to seat Black, citing a loyalty oath he failed to sign before registering his candidacy. The oath states candidates must refrain from activities "likely to injure the name of the Republican Party."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bl...nationalist%29

    ***
    An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

    Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party," A 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.

    ***
    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 voting:

    By party
    The original House version:

    Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%--39%)
    Republican Party: 138-34 (80%--20%)

    Cloture in the Senate:

    Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%--34%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%--18%)

    The Senate version:

    Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%--31%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%--18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:

    Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%--37%)
    Republican Party: 136-35 (80%--20%)

    ***
    Blacks mostly voted Republican from after the Civil War and through the early part of the 20th century. That's not surprising when one considers that Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president, and the white, segregationist politicians who governed Southern states in those days were Democrats. The Democratic Party didn't welcome blacks then, and it wasn't until 1924 that blacks were even permitted to attend Democratic conventions in any official capacity. Most blacks lived in the South, where they were mostly prevented from voting at all.

    ***
    I'm not a Republican but to those who say racists are welcome in the Republican Party, I haven't found the evidence of that. The KKK was started by the Democrat Party and evidence of that is abundant.
    Just the facts...


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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Webb View Post
    Each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops.

    He presides over the Council of the Centaurs.

    Writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant.

    In the Klan hierarchy, the Exalted Cyclops reports to:

    A Grand Giant, or provincial leader;

    A Grand Dragon, or state director;

    And the Grand Wizard, or national chair.

    Below the Cyclops were:

    The Grand Magi,

    The Grand Monk,

    The Grand Exchequer,

    The Grand Turk,

    The Exalted Cyclops' responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs--that's Klan-speak for a jury--to try and punish wayward Ghouls.
    Wow, I never realized that Klansmen were so fond of D&D/Tolkien mythology.
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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    and voters will decide if they want him as sheriff. Not saying he should be elected, just that he has a right to run for the position.

    It is similar to asking should a person who belongs to a group that is against illegal immigration be allowed to run for sheriff? Yes, its up to the voters to decide if the person gets hired.
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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff - Views on race won't be an issue, white supremacist claims

    Is it ok to call this guy a racist? Or would that be overplaying the race card?
    Permission granted.

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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This man actually is a racist.This isn't some msnbc race card BS.
    No, as he is a Klansman, I'm pretty sure that says everything one needs to know. I was joking with you about how he was trying to spin his image problem.
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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff - Views on race won't be an issue, white supremacist claims

    Is it ok to call this guy a racist? Or would that be overplaying the race card?
    Well it seems like in this case that would be a rather accurate description (calling him racist).
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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    How many non-racists you know that join racists organizations?

    Here's about as close as one can get....heh, heh....




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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Webb View Post
    Here's a video of Bill Clinton EXPLAINING Robert Byrd's association with the KKK:

    Bill Clinton Explains Robert Byrd's Membership In KKK - YouTube

    ***
    "He once had a fleeting association with the Ku Klux Klan, what does that mean? I'll tell you what it means. He was a country boy from the hills and hollows from West Virginia. He was trying to get elected," former President Bill Clinton said of Sen. Robert Byrd.

    "And maybe he did something he shouldn't have done come and he spent the rest of his life making it up. And that's what a good person does. There are no perfect people. There are certainly no perfect politicians," he added.

    ***
    Robert Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter) and Exalted Cyclops in the Ku Klux Klan.

    In the early 1940s, Byrd recruited 150 of his friends and associates to create a new chapter of the Ku Klux Klan.

    Each local chapter, or Klavern, is led by an Exalted Cyclops.

    He presides over the Council of the Centaurs.

    Writes quarterly reports to the Grand Giant.

    In the Klan hierarchy, the Exalted Cyclops reports to:

    A Grand Giant, or provincial leader;

    A Grand Dragon, or state director;

    And the Grand Wizard, or national chair.

    Below the Cyclops were:

    The Grand Magi,

    The Grand Monk,

    The Grand Exchequer,

    The Grand Turk,

    The Exalted Cyclops' responsibilities include presiding over Klavern meetings, initiating new members, and appointing Councils of Centaurs--that's Klan-speak for a jury--to try and punish wayward Ghouls.

    In 1944, Byrd wrote to segregationist Mississippi Senator Theodore Bilbo:

    "I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side ... Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds."

    -- Robert C. Byrd, in a letter to Sen. Theodore Bilbo (D-MS), 1944,

    In 1946 or 1947 Byrd wrote a letter to a Grand Wizard stating,"The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation."

    Byrd joined with other Southern and border-state Democrats personally filibustering the bill for to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1964,14 hours, a move he later said he regretted. Despite an 83-day filibuster in the Senate, both parties in Congress voted overwhelmingly in favor of the Act, and President Johnson signed the bill into law.

    ***
    Membership totals are hard to track, because the Klan doesn't willingly release member lists. Over the long term, the KKK is clearly contracting, since its rolls have shrunk from millions in the 1920s to between 3,000 and 5,000 today.

    (T)he Ku Klux Klan is losing chapters, according to data released on Wednesday by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The number of KKK chapters dropped from 221 to 152 in just one year.

    Former KKK Grand Wizard Don Black in 1995 launched the website Stormfront, which enables individuals in the white supremacist movement to share ideas and read news stories reported from a racist perspective.

    Ku Klux Klan in decline: Why did the KKK lose so many chapters in 2010? - Slate Magazine

    ***
    In August 2008 Black's 19-year-old son Derek was elected to one of 111 seats on the Palm Beach County, Fla., Republican committee, with 167 of 287 votes. The committee has refused to seat Black, citing a loyalty oath he failed to sign before registering his candidacy. The oath states candidates must refrain from activities "likely to injure the name of the Republican Party."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bl...nationalist%29

    ***
    An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.

    Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party," A 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.

    ***
    The Civil Rights Act of 1964 voting:

    By party
    The original House version:

    Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%--39%)
    Republican Party: 138-34 (80%--20%)

    Cloture in the Senate:

    Democratic Party: 44-23 (66%--34%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%--18%)

    The Senate version:

    Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%--31%)
    Republican Party: 27-6 (82%--18%)

    The Senate version, voted on by the House:

    Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%--37%)
    Republican Party: 136-35 (80%--20%)

    ***
    Blacks mostly voted Republican from after the Civil War and through the early part of the 20th century. That's not surprising when one considers that Abraham Lincoln was the first Republican president, and the white, segregationist politicians who governed Southern states in those days were Democrats. The Democratic Party didn't welcome blacks then, and it wasn't until 1924 that blacks were even permitted to attend Democratic conventions in any official capacity. Most blacks lived in the South, where they were mostly prevented from voting at all.

    ***
    I'm not a Republican but to those who say racists are welcome in the Republican Party, I haven't found the evidence of that. The KKK was started by the Democrat Party and evidence of that is abundant.
    To see that evidence you haven't seen you need to read up on the Republican Southern Strategy and the great party switches that happened from Dem to Repub after the civil rights amendment was passed.

    Then after you figure out that the Southern Strategy was racist and that the likes of Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond jumped the Dem ship to the GOP you can then ask the guy that this thread is about why he is vying for a Republican nomination... and then you can ask David Duke why he was running as a Republican.

    Times change.
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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    To see that evidence you haven't seen you need to read up on the Republican Southern Strategy and the great party switches that happened from Dem to Repub after the civil rights amendment was passed.

    Then after you figure out that the Southern Strategy was racist and that the likes of Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond jumped the Dem ship to the GOP you can then ask the guy that this thread is about why he is vying for a Republican nomination... and then you can ask David Duke why he was running as a Republican.

    Times change.
    OR you could ask these two why they're running as democrats:

    But it’s the video where he casually talks about “shooting” and starving black South Africans – and kidnapping the country’s president – that caught the attention of people who track white supremacists.

    Hollar, who is running for the N.C. Senate from Catawba County, is one of two Democratic candidates whom state party officials have taken the unusual step of denouncing.

    The other is Carrol Crawford, a former Ku Klux Klan leader once convicted of burning a cross in Charlotte. He’s running for Rowan County commissioner.

    Read more here: N.C. Democrats disown 'racist' state candidates | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper

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    Re: Klansman Running for Idaho Sheriff

    Quote Originally Posted by jerry7 View Post
    OR you could ask these two why they're running as democrats:

    But it’s the video where he casually talks about “shooting” and starving black South Africans – and kidnapping the country’s president – that caught the attention of people who track white supremacists.

    Hollar, who is running for the N.C. Senate from Catawba County, is one of two Democratic candidates whom state party officials have taken the unusual step of denouncing.

    The other is Carrol Crawford, a former Ku Klux Klan leader once convicted of burning a cross in Charlotte. He’s running for Rowan County commissioner.

    Read more here: N.C. Democrats disown 'racist' state candidates | CharlotteObserver.com & The Charlotte Observer Newspaper
    So the Democrats "disown" the racist candidates. Imagine that. lol


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    Bivins Hollar likes to post videos from his bedroom. About weight loss. About Pokemon cards. About selling chewing gum at a flea market.

    But it’s the video where he casually talks about “shooting” and starving black South Africans – and kidnapping the country’s president – that caught the attention of people who track white supremacists.

    Hollar, who is running for the N.C. Senate from Catawba County, is one of two Democratic candidates whom state party officials have taken the unusual step of denouncing.




    Fat guy preaching about weight loss from his bedroom... ok. You've made your "solid" point. lol

    The other guy is a 77 year old man who is putting distance from that era in his life. Unlike Sir David Duke now and this guy the OP wrote about.

    Contacted by the Observer, he didn’t acknowledge that he used to be in the Klan.

    “I am associated with only one group and that is the America Legion,” he said. “Used to be is used to be. Hasn’t got a damn thing to do with today.”

    *edit... btw:

    David Duke used to be a Democrat who flipped to Republican as well.

    times change.
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