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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm suggesting no one acts alone - there's always help. I'm also suggesting that this (now dead) terrorist isn't the only one who's responsible for those dead: Those who knowingly helped him in these acts are just as guilty.
    The statement you objected to originally:

    ""our Muslim compatriots had nothing to do with this killer"

    Now one man killing spree's are a common fact of life, we in Europe had a quite devastating one last year involving children. It's certainly the case the tools with which to do the crime were obtained illegally, but getting firearms illegally doesn't mean Muslims provided them. It certainly doesn't mean other Muslims planned the attack. It certainly doesn't mean that the criminal underworld in France who are most likely to sell these arms share his ideology or have any ideology other than obtaining wealth for that matter.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    The statement you objected to originally:

    ""our Muslim compatriots had nothing to do with this killer"

    Now one man killing spree's are a common fact of life, we in Europe had a quite devastating one last year involving children. It's certainly the case the tools with which to do the crime were obtained illegally, but getting firearms illegally doesn't mean Muslims provided them. It certainly doesn't mean other Muslims planned the attack. It certainly doesn't mean that the criminal underworld in France who are most likely to sell these arms share his ideology or have any ideology other than obtaining wealth for that matter.
    You're right that it doesn't mean any of those things but it also means that another guy called Mohamed was involved in a terror attack.

    Perhaps that name will one be as popular for male babies as Adolf.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    You're right that it doesn't mean any of those things but it also means that another guy called Mohamed was involved in a terror attack.

    Perhaps that name will one be as popular for male babies as Adolf.
    What's troubling here is that a dude was captured by Afghan forces, handed back over to NATO and the French government basically said "stop your west-hating diatribe over there, you might get in trouble, come back over here where we're more tolerant of that kind of thing."

    Maybe that guy deserved freedom of speech before he did what he did, he also certainly deserved harder surveillance.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    What's troubling here is that a dude was captured by Afghan forces, handed back over to NATO and the French government basically said "stop your west-hating diatribe over there, you might get in trouble, come back over here where we're more tolerant of that kind of thing."

    Maybe that guy deserved freedom of speech before he did what he did, he also certainly deserved harder surveillance.
    Yes, but harder surveillance is often called 'profiling', with charges of 'racism' surely to follow.

    It's time we got past that.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Can you believe these news????

    Luckily, the french authorities had the good sense to suspend the teacher immediately!


    French teacher seeks 'minute's silence for killer' - Yahoo! News

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, but harder surveillance is often called 'profiling', with charges of 'racism' surely to follow.

    It's time we got past that.
    So you want a society where everyone is a suspect?
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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Can you believe these news????

    Luckily, the french authorities had the good sense to suspend the teacher immediately!


    French teacher seeks 'minute's silence for killer' - Yahoo! News
    But a union leader was quick to jump to her defense.

    "This is not the political act of an extremist but the act of a colleague who has health concerns, who is fragile and who is receiving psychological treatment," the local head of the SGEN-CFDT union, Pascal Bossuyt, told AFP.

    "She said something unfortunate in a particular context and she immediately regretted what she said," he added.
    She seemed to be quite sincere when she said it.

    It's clear the rep is lying but lying doesn't seem to matter much anymore.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    So you want a society where everyone is a suspect?
    Perhaps you can explain the reasoning behind that question. I have no idea how you got there.

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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps you can explain the reasoning behind that question. I have no idea how you got there.
    You stated

    Yes, but harder surveillance is often called 'profiling', with charges of 'racism' surely to follow.

    It's time we got past that.
    From what I can gather from those comments, then you are for harder surveillance.. and profiling. Now my question is how harder? As in making everyone a suspect from the start hard? Police state hard? or just targeting those minorities we dont like.. you know, Muslims, Jews, homos, left handed people, red heads, socialists, Latinos, Blacks and Asians.. and so on? That of course would never have prevented Gabby Giffords assassination attempt or Breviks murder spree or the Oklahoma City bombings... they were after all white Christians..
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    Re: Gunman kills four at French Jewish school

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'm suggesting no one acts alone - there's always help. I'm also suggesting that this (now dead) terrorist isn't the only one who's responsible for those dead: Those who knowingly helped him in these acts are just as guilty.
    So who else should be arrested?
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