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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yep, just like the Occupy movement across the country, and it was inspiring to see the Civil Rights Veterans express solidarity with the Occupy Movement:


    Council of Elders - Occupy Wall Street - Statement of Solidarity

    The Council of Elders, a newly organized, independent group of leaders from many of the defining American social justice movements of the 20th century....


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    Just for your edification, and education....

    The term "social justice" is now commonly used by leftist activists, clergy, educators, judges, and politicians to describe the goal they seek to achieve with many of their policies. No precise definition of "social justice" is ever offered by the left. Instead, the term is always used in a vague way -- as if everyone already knows, or should know, what the seemingly well-intentioned phrase "social justice" means.

    So, what exactly is "social justice"?

    Social justice is the complete economic equality of all members of society. While this may sound like a lofty objective, what it really means is that wealth should be collected by the government and evenly distributed to everyone. In short, social justice is communism. It is rooted in the Marxist idea that the money people make and the property they own do not rightfully belong to the people who make the money and own the property.

    Karl Marx's ultimate criticism of capitalism is its recognition of private property. The reason private property is so evil, Marx contended, is that it is a function of economic class warfare. In other words, "the rich" use the concept of private property to oppress "the poor." In order to understand this convoluted thought process, Marx's view of money must be examined, since money is the means by which private property is acquired.

    According to Marx, money is really a "collective product" that belongs to everyone. His reasoning, as described in The Communist Manifesto, is that money can be made only "by the united action of all members of society." Factory owners, for example, cannot manufacture goods by themselves. Rather, the factory owners need workers to run the machines that produce goods. Consequently, in Marx's mind, when the manufactured good is sold, the worker has as much right to the proceeds of that sale as the factory owner does.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Just for your edification, and education....



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    We know what the far right thinks about the Occupy movement, but thanks for the Marxist mongering just the same.


    i put more stock in the support by the Civil Rights groups and Veterans.

    Religious leaders, Occupy Chicago celebrate King

    "Rally speakers emphasize similarities between civil rights leader's message then and protest movement today
    January 15, 2012|By Ryan Haggerty, Chicago Tribune reporter
    Religious and civil rights leaders joined forces Sunday with the Occupy Chicago movement, urging those fighting for economic and political equality to remember the passion and purpose with which the Rev.Martin Luther King Jr. helped change the country.

    King's message and "solutions for a community and a nation in crisis are as relevant today as when he uttered them some 40-plus years ago," said the Rev. Dwight Gardner, the keynote speaker Sunday afternoon at a rally and public meeting at The Peoples Church of Chicago in the Uptown neighborhood."

    Civil rights leaders, Occupy Chicago join forces on eve of Martin Luther King Jr. Day - Chicago Tribune


    U.S. Vets, Suffering From Unemployment and Homelessness, Support Occupy Protests

    "Chapters of Iraq Veterans Against the War have engaged in Occupy movements across the nation as representatives of the organization. They say they are part of the 99 percent and share the sentiments of the movement.

    "There's a lot of solidarity with the Occupy movement," said Matt Howard, who was a Marine from 2001 to 2006 and served two tours in Iraq. "A lot of the same issues that the veteran population is contending with is linked with the Occupy protests in terms of economic equality and a disappearing middle class."

    Howard, who has marched with the protesters in San Francisco, says he links the issues the demonstrators are protesting to the heavy costs of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and the cost of repairing the mental and physical wounds of vets through the Department of Veteran Affairs.

    "The 1 percent have profited during times of war," Hughes said. "If you're profiting during a time of war, what does that make you? Everyone else is losing, everyone else is struggling financially, service members and vets are just one part of that struggle for survival while the one percent is profiting. We call those war profiteers and I don't know when in our country that's been OK. That's one reason while Scott was out there."

    U.S. Vets, Suffering From Unemployment and Homelessness, Support Occupy Protests - ABC News
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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    lol Thats ok since it is also equated that "everyone on the right are Nazis."
    Actually, in here it seems that the left are being on the defensive by regular delusional accusations that NAZIism is on the left along with communism simply because "socialism" is in the name of the Nationalist Socialist Party. And once it's in your name then it is a stone cold fact. Like Patriot Act. Must be very patriotic and the Democratic Republic of Korea meaning they are really a democratic republic and all.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    Actually, in here it seems that the left are being on the defensive by regular delusional accusations that NAZIism is on the left along with communism simply because "socialism" is in the name of the Nationalist Socialist Party. And once it's in your name then it is a stone cold fact. Like Patriot Act. Must be very patriotic and the Democratic Republic of Korea meaning they are really a democratic republic and all.
    I get what you are saying, but none the less many people on the Left equate the Right with Nazism as well. I would imagine it is because of that assumed relationship between the Right and Nazism that the Right is pointing out the word Socialist in Nazism. Of course the Left does not equate Communism anymore than the Right equates fascism. Which the Left started the fascism accusation because of the Communist accusations. Tit for tat. But thats how it goes when people slander each other. Both side are trying to assert that the other leads to worse things. Not necessarily that they are that bad now. Just that they have the potential to be bad. So the accusations go back and forth no matter what the reality is.

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