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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    It is par for course when it comes to politics. I am quite certain that if any leader in ows is busted for anything that the media will relate it to ows. They dont call them political scandals for nothing.
    No, it is not par for the course when it comes to politics. Since when? Many people are arrested on a daily basis without the media announcing their political affiliations. And this incident was quite separate from any Tea Party protest so it is obviously only a strongly political ploy . It does not compare to the 73 arrested at an actual protest and which is the subject on this thread . The Democrats should avoid any debate about which party has the most convicted felons.
    At anyrate I was not saying that the two protest groups were on th e same level. I only pointed out that the tea party is not full of perfect law abiding people either.
    That will be the case with any group and i doubt there would be anyone who would argue otherwise, but certainly proportionality can be looked at.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    A list of accomplishments in the last 6 months by the Occupy groups across the nation:

    "Income Inequality: The 99 Percent movement refocused America’s political debate, forcing news outlets and eventually politicians to focus on rising income inequality. While debt and deficits were the primary focus of the media before the movement started, their attention after the movement began shifted to jobs, Wall Street, and unemployment. By the end of October, even Republicans were talking about income inequality, and a week later, Time Magazine devoted its cover to the topic, asking, “Can you still move up in America?”

    Occupy Our Homes: The movement has drawn attention to many of the predatory, discriminatory, and fraudulent practices perpetrated by banks during the foreclosure crisis, and across the country, Occupy groups, religious leaders, and community organizations have helped homeowners prevent wrongful foreclosures on their homes. Activists in Detroit are working to save their fifth home, and similar actions have taken place in cities like Minneapolis, Los Angeles, Cleveland, and Atlanta. The movement has drawn so much attention that local political leaders and even members of Congress have stepped in to help homeowners facing foreclosure.

    Move Your Money: On Bank Transfer Day, activists helped more than 40,000 Americans move their money from large banks to credit unions, and more than 650,000 switched to credit unions last October. Religious groups have taken up the cause as well, moving $55 million before Thanksgiving. This year, a San Francisco interfaith group moved $10 million from Wells Fargo and other groups marked Lent by moving more money from Wall Street. As a result, analysts say the nation’s 10 biggest banks could lose $185 billion in customer deposits this year “due to customer defections.”

    Fighting For Positive Policies: Occupy groups have pushed for positive policy outcomes at both the state and federal levels. Occupy The SEC submitted a 325-page comment letter on the Volcker Rule, a regulation to rein in big banks. Pressure from protesters forced New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) to reverse his opposition to a millionaire’s tax, and activists fought Indiana Republicans’ union-busting “right-to-work” law, and have pushed big banks to stop financing destructive environmental practices like mountaintop removal mining in coal states.

    Though many of the camps across the country have been disbanded, the 99 Percent Movement isn’t going away. Organizers have continued fighting at the state level, pushing back against banks on fraudulent foreclosures and other issues, and have now turned their attention to the 2012 presidential elections. Movement leaders in New York, meanwhile, are developing high-tech ways to organize protests and keep the movement going. Occupy is starting to assert a political influence, pushing multiple candidates and even running for office themselves — in both Maine and Pennsylvania, former Occupy activists are running for public office.

    “It’s changed the language,” one protester told the Wall Street Journal. “It’s brought out a lot of issues that people are talking about. … And that’s the start of change.”
    BeyondChron: San Francisco's Alternative Online Daily News » After Six Months, a Look at What Occupy Wall Street Has Accomplished
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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Why are you such a wannabe American Right Winger?
    Its time for the personal attacks...Shame on you.
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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Its time for the personal attacks...Shame on you.
    how is calling you a right-winger, a personal attack?

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how is calling you a right-winger, a personal attack?
    It was the American part which he felt was the insult because he is not American..

    Calling me a left winger would have been quite offensive and he kindly avoided that. I would be proud to be an American, of course. but am instead proud to be Canadian.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    No, it is not par for the course when it comes to politics. Since when? Many people are arrested on a daily basis without the media announcing their political affiliations. And this incident was quite separate from any Tea Party protest so it is obviously only a strongly political ploy . It does not compare to the 73 arrested at an actual protest and which is the subject on this thread . The Democrats should avoid any debate about which party has the most convicted felons.


    That will be the case with any group and i doubt there would be anyone who would argue otherwise, but certainly proportionality can be looked at.
    Oh yea the Republican and Democrat rhetoric. Heres my point the Tea Party is not better than the occupy movement. The Tea party promotes radical crap and so does OWS. What it boils down too is Either theocracy or Communism. Both groups insist that everyone should do what they say. So crying about who gets arrested more at their protests is just slitting hairs.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Oh yea the Republican and Democrat rhetoric. Heres my point the Tea Party is not better than the occupy movement. The Tea party promotes radical crap and so does OWS.
    What "radical crap" are you referring to?

    The Tea Party wants responsible government and the OWS want honesty on Wall Street. Neither is crap. What´s in dispute is how they get their messages across.
    What it boils down too is Either theocracy or Communism.
    I rather doubt that. Certainly there is room in the middle.

    Both groups insist that everyone should do what they say. So crying about who gets arrested more at their protests is just slitting hairs.
    It's a democracy and people are voicing their opinions, as is their right. That's all part of free speech and the democratic process.

    While you call it "splitting hairs" it is just people participating in public debate, which is why we area all here. But having said all that it's clear that the OWS protesters are juvenile loons.

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What "radical crap" are you referring to?

    The Tea Party wants responsible government and the OWS want honesty on Wall Street. Neither is crap. What´s in dispute is how they get their messages across.


    I rather doubt that. Certainly there is room in the middle.



    It's a democracy and people are voicing their opinions, as is their right. That's all part of free speech and the democratic process.

    While you call it "splitting hairs" it is just people participating in public debate, which is why we area all here. But having said all that it's clear that the OWS protesters are juvenile loons.
    So the 73 that got arrested were engaging in public debate?

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    Re: 73 arrested at Occupy protest

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    So the 73 that got arrested were engaging in public debate?
    Is that your take?

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