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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

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    In any case, the unions agreed to make concessions, and there would have been no budget problem but for reduced revenues due to the recession and tax cuts and other "conservative" spending measures favored by Walker. Most of those spending measures were supposed to increase jobs growth ... but Walker scored an epic fail in that regard. Wisconsin was dead last in job creation last year. Number 50 out of 50 states.
    Both Madison and MATC school districts rushed to put their contracts through as soon as the legislation was introduced. The unions never agreed to make concessions except at news conferences.
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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

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    Personally I'd rather fight for those who don't have retirement and health benefits, as opposed to fighting those who do have them because you don't.

    In any case, the unions agreed to make concessions, and there would have been no budget problem but for reduced revenues due to the recession and tax cuts and other "conservative" spending measures favored by Walker. Most of those spending measures were supposed to increase jobs growth ... but Walker scored an epic fail in that regard. Wisconsin was dead last in job creation last year. Number 50 out of 50 states.
    Did you mention Obamas Job Czar Mr Jefferly Immelt (GE) who moved a company from Milwaukee that had been there 100+ years to China? I would bet that the Obama regime is doing everything possible to try to bring Walker down and this is just one example. With that said, what do you think is going to bring more jobs to Wisconsin then, more big goverment? More big spending putting us further into debt? No doubt Walker was foolish to make such bold job predictions with this president in charge and he may eventually pay for it at the ballot box. But that is much more reason to vote him out than the narrow selfish interests of the public sector unions.

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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

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    I disagree, many people in the private sector took major paycuts & layoffs during the last few years while still having to pay for these peoples "Cadillac" benefits & pension packages. Its truely astounding the behavior that these people displayed when they were asked to contribute, truely selfish & digusting. I dont think the public sector union employees understand the level of contempt there fellow Wisconites feel for them when they apparently think that even on reduced salaries and benefits ourselves we should still pay for benefits that most of us could only dream of even during good times. No I think it took alot of guts to go up against the thugish unions & admire Walker for doing what had to be done, popular with some or not.

    What created Wisconsins problem was out of control spending in the previous Doyle (democrat) administration which put us in the dire financial straits that we were in, if they wouldnt have spent like drunken sailors for 8 years the state employess benefits would never need to have been cut, recession or not, would they? But yet you see these drones go on & on about Walker, doing what he was forced to do because of Doyles spending, yet they dont say a thing about Doyle. I really think that there is a rather embarresingly large number of fellow citizens of Wisconsin who just dont "get it".
    Did the Koch Brothers run the state during the previous administration, as they do with Walker?

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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    To the Obama supporters who want Walker recalled:

    I was just wondering then, using the same logic you are using to recall Walker. Would you support a recall
    of president Obama for cutting the militaries medical benefits (including combat pay) while not touching the Union civilian
    goverment employees who support them? Lets see here we get guys & gals that are losing limbs, pushed mentally to the limits with endless deployment and dying, who's families (children) have to struggle for months on end with out there support, these people deserve to have there benefits cut, but Union employees Federal or State are sacred cows & should not be touched?

    So Wisconsin teachers & such who are affected by this, are you going to stand up & support your fellow government employees (the military, who keeps your freedoms safe with there lifes sometimes) by marching on the white house & threatening to "Recall"
    Mr. Obama in the next election?

    I think we know the answer to that & I thin it exposes you people for who you really are, but hey prove me wrong if you will.
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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

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    Did the Koch Brothers run the state during the previous administration, as they do with Walker?
    This is silly of course but as far as I know the Koch brothers are paying taxes on there earnings, the same cant be said for GE can it? Who pays no taxes. But since they are big supporters of Democrats, that is ok then huh?

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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    Actually, Walker already lost control of the Senate long ago, because one of the Republicans, Schultz, has been voting against Walker's extremist agenda ever since last summer. This year Walker has been forced to compromise on just about everything, and the strip mining bill, which would have gutted safety regulations, was defeated. Many Republicans have not become extremists, and still place a value on decency.
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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Did you mention Obamas Job Czar Mr Jefferly Immelt (GE) who moved a company from Milwaukee that had been there 100+ years to China? I would bet that the Obama regime is doing everything possible to try to bring Walker down and this is just one example. With that said, what do you think is going to bring more jobs to Wisconsin then, more big goverment? More big spending putting us further into debt? No doubt Walker was foolish to make such bold job predictions with this president in charge and he may eventually pay for it at the ballot box. But that is much more reason to vote him out than the narrow selfish interests of the public sector unions.
    I think what's most likely to bring more jobs to Wisconsin is a highly educated workforce and decent living conditions. I don't see slashing school spending and state services as serving those goals. Apparently the business community doesn't, either.
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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    To the Obama supporters who want Walker recalled:

    I was just wondering then, using the same logic you are using to recall Walker. Would you support a recall
    of president Obama for cutting the militaries medical benefits (including combat pay) while not touching the Union civilian
    goverment employees who support them?
    Fortunately Obama has done nothing of the kind. In fact, what he did was freeze everyone's pay BUT the military's.

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    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think what's most likely to bring more jobs to Wisconsin is a highly educated workforce and decent living conditions. I don't see slashing school spending and state services as serving those goals. Apparently the business community doesn't, either.
    That might be what would draw you there, but it would not necessarily draw a new business there. Businesses seek business friendly environments. Taxes, regulations, unions drive businesses out, not draw them in.

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    Re: Senator Pam Galloway Resigns Seat On Wisconsin Legislature, GOP Loses Senate Cont

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think what's most likely to bring more jobs to Wisconsin is a highly educated workforce and decent living conditions. I don't see slashing school spending and state services as serving those goals. Apparently the business community doesn't, either.

    Please address MaggieD's last post....The point she made has been made to you and justabubba (who gave you a like for the dishonest post) before, and you seem like in this thread to simply ignore the fact, and continue the narrative anyway...That is dishonest.


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