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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Additionally, the cell phone company isn't free to change the terms of the agreement whenever they please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    No, with the cell phone company, it's "take any one of these packages we offer or get your service somewhere else."
    True, but thats the natural relationship between the fed and,the states inreards to the purse strings. what the states/people can do is vote in other people which often happens.

    The fed does a lot of things that take away states rights that many consider unconstitutional; however, this isn't one off them
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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Texas does have budget shotfalls, just like many other states, however, the state is taking the approach of cutting expences instead of raising taxes. This is royally pissing off liberals because the two largest portions of the budget are Education (43.3%) and Heath and Human Services (31.6%). However, the federal government only provides 32.4% of budgeted dollars (thats total, not any particular program). To help try to balance out the budget, the state is targeting Medicaid heavily. Part of this was cutting family planning funding from $111 million to $37 million, with the bar to those who provide abortions, the state is able to still provide services (other than abortion) while cutting the budget. It should also be noted that the state heavily cut Medicaid entitlements in general, this may be considered limiting the choice of providers by some, but the limit is actually providers who will no longer accept medicaid patients at the pay the state funds.

    Planned Parenthood in this case is the one limiting womens choices, not the state, if Planned Parenthood would drop abortions, they would have the funding (at the reduced rate everyone else is getting). By the Federal Government cutting off all funding for womens health, they are hurting the women of Texas, all in the name of supporting taxpayer funded abortion. The state is trying to balance budgets, many, perhaps most of the state does not support tax monies going for abortion, so if something has to be cut, that is a logical choice to make and again, the only ones limiting womens choices of healthcare providers is the ones who refuse to drop abortion, not the state.

    Once again, Texas is at odds with the Federal Government, just like:

    Voter ID requirement
    Redistricting based upon population instead of guarenteed minority representation
    Immigration reform
    EPA/Federal restrictions that cost the state jobs
    Taxes
    Gun rights
    Open/concealed carry
    Affirmative Action
    Workfare vs Welfare,

    etc,etc, etc.
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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Planned Parenthood in this case is the one limiting womens choices, not the state, if Planned Parenthood would drop abortions, they would have the funding (at the reduced rate everyone else is getting). By the Federal Government cutting off all funding for womens health, they are hurting the women of Texas, all in the name of supporting taxpayer funded abortion. The state is trying to balance budgets, many, perhaps most of the state does not support tax monies going for abortion, so if something has to be cut, that is a logical choice to make and again, the only ones limiting womens choices of healthcare providers is the ones who refuse to drop abortion, not the state.
    So, the State of Texas doesn't want to pay for abortions when a rapist, father, brother, uncle, etc. impregnates a woman.

    And they want to save the unborn baby even if it kills the mother.

    I get it! When a man loves a woman in Texas his baby should be born even if it was his daughter/sister/mother or the girl next door that told him to get lost.
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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    True, but thats the natural relationship between the fed and,the states inreards to the purse strings. what the states/people can do is vote in other people which often happens.

    The fed does a lot of things that take away states rights that many consider unconstitutional; however, this isn't one off them
    I wasn't arguing constitutionality, I was arguing whether or not this arrangement constitutes a contract.

    Quote Originally Posted by xpiher View Post
    Reread your contact, they can and do. This doesn't just happen with cell phones.
    I guess it depends on who you get your service from. My boss had a great unlimited plan for years until his phone was so old the network didn't support it anymore.
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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Planned Parenthood in this case is the one limiting womens choices, not the state, if Planned Parenthood would drop abortions, they would have the funding (at the reduced rate everyone else is getting).
    False dilemma. Hospitals are still able to participate, and the only caveat there is that tax dollars can't be use to fund elective abortions performed there.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    By the Federal Government cutting off all funding for womens health, they are hurting the women of Texas, all in the name of supporting taxpayer funded abortion. The state is trying to balance budgets, many, perhaps most of the state does not support tax monies going for abortion, so if something has to be cut, that is a logical choice to make and again, the only ones limiting womens choices of healthcare providers is the ones who refuse to drop abortion, not the state.
    This isn't simply a matter of budget-cutting, the state government took a stance motivated strictly by politics. It is a stance which doesn't mesh with the Federal government's policy, so the Federal government responded accordingly.
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    Re: Texas Medicaid Funds Cut Over Planned Parenthood

    Just thought I'd add this for a reference:

    DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES
    CMCS Informational Bulletin
    DATE: June 1, 2011
    FROM: Cindy Mann, JD
    Director
    Center for Medicaid, CHIP and Survey & Certification (CMCS)
    SUBJECT: Update on Medicaid/CHIP

    http://www.cms.gov/CMCSBulletins/dow...o-Bulletin.pdf
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