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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I was a grandmother at 38. I was a virgin when I was married. My daughter ignored me and married young, too. Does that make us dumb white trash?
    Possibly. Statistically speaking, probably so, yes. If you made your grandchild run around till she died because of a candy bar, I'd say most certainly you are dumb white trash. Did you make your grandchild run around till dead?
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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Possibly. Statistically speaking, probably so, yes. If you made your grandchild run around till she died because of a candy bar, I'd say most certainly you are dumb white trash. Did you make your grandchild run around till dead?
    I see. So it's okay to stereotype all women who married young and were grandmothers before the age of, say, 60 as dumb white trash. Would that also apply to women of other ethnicities? Or would black women be generalized as dumb black trash, Asians generalized as dumb Asian trash, and Latinas generalized as dumb Hispanic trash. Perhaps we should just make it easy on you, and consider all women who were young grandmothers to be dumb trash so as not to appear, you know, bigoted against any one ethnicity.
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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I see. So it's okay to stereotype all women who married young and were grandmothers before the age of, say, 60 as dumb white trash.
    Not just women, men too. I have a very good friend who is Indian (India Indian, not Native American), who is white trash. He's not dumb though, he's actually very smart (and has no kids). Being white trash isn't about color of one's skin, it's about attitude.
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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Not just women, men too.
    Oh, it gets better! So at what age, Ikari, may both men and women become grandparents without being considered dumb trash? You've already established that because I was 38, I am probably dumb white trash... so how long should I have waited until you would assume I am not dumb and not trash.

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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Oh, it gets better! So at what age, Ikari, may both men and women become grandparents without being considered dumb trash? You've already established that because I was 38, I am probably dumb white trash... so how long should I have waited until you would assume I am not dumb and not trash.
    Statistically speaking, the less educated tend to have more kids at an earlier age. Don't yell at me, yell at math.
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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Yea, just like typical Americans, they're getting their emotions involved.

    It seems that anything involving a child makes people become illogical in their thinking. As a child, as a punishment, I was forced to push mow my parents yard. In July. I got hot as hell doing it, even dizzy, but I sure as hell didn't backsas my mom again. If I'd have died, would she have deserved the death penalty? Absolutely not. Their must be premeditation, and there obviously is not, so that's out. If they don't drop the charges to something that will stick, she could walk.

    Do I think she should walk? No. I think that an accidental death occurred through negligence on the part of the grandma. 5-10 years, tops with parole. A child died. The grandma did NOT kill her directly, did not PLAN on killing her, etc. Sorry, no death penalty. Not even close, honestly.

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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Oh, it gets better! So at what age, Ikari, may both men and women become grandparents without being considered dumb trash? You've already established that because I was 38, I am probably dumb white trash... so how long should I have waited until you would assume I am not dumb and not trash.
    Isn't 38 about right to be a grandmother?

    A generation is generally 20 years so if you have your child at 19 and your daughter has hers at 19, they you are a grandmother at 38, just about right.

    It is really only in America where women have their first kid at 40 so their kid has one at 20 and is a grandmother at 60.

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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I see. So it's okay to stereotype all women who married young and were grandmothers before the age of, say, 60 as dumb white trash. Would that also apply to women of other ethnicities? Or would black women be generalized as dumb black trash, Asians generalized as dumb Asian trash, and Latinas generalized as dumb Hispanic trash. Perhaps we should just make it easy on you, and consider all women who were young grandmothers to be dumb trash so as not to appear, you know, bigoted against any one ethnicity.
    Seems to me your making it about race, then saying Ikari is being bigoted.

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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It is really only in America where women have their first kid at 40 so their kid has one at 20 and is a grandmother at 60.
    It isn't just America, and age of first kid is not quite 40. It's starting to approach 30 (other countries are closer to 30). The number of women who are over 30 and having their first child is rising as well. As a society becomes increasingly complex and educated, the age of first birth goes up. Generally speaking, the more educated one is, the more likely they are to have their first child at a much later date. All the people I know (and this is a small group sample, and not well representative of the whole) have been exceedingly well educated and haven't had their first kid to near or past 30. It's just how the numbers work out. And that’s not limited to the US. It’s common in most of the industrial countries.
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    Re: Grandmother faces capital charge in death of Alabama third-grader

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Death penalty!? Holy f'n ****! I ain't saying that she shouldn't face repercussions; but seriously....the death penalty? I don't think they intended to kill her, but through their own negligence and ignorance ended up doing so. We have laws for that, and those don't come with death penalty results. This ain't first degree murder. ****, the grandmother is a grandmother at 46....46. Dumb white trash doing what dumb white trash does best.
    Like minus the unexpected "dumb white trash" part. But I agree, arguing for the death penalty is irrationally harsh in this and it's emotional, revenge based position. I favor a little more mercy.

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