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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Most healthcare insurance policies already pay for birth control pills and every single one of them already pays for every health exam a woman could ever have.

    This is a scam, folks. A fantasy invention of the Democratic Party to convince those on the fence that the Republican Party is targetting women. Gimme' a break.
    maggie, this is mostly in response to the abortion bills that have come out in the past year or so. don't tell me those bills are not targeting women, because they certainly are.

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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    maggie, this is mostly in response to the abortion bills that have come out in the past year or so. don't tell me those bills are not targeting women, because they certainly are.
    I don't see this Viagra bill as an example of what you're talking about, but I know of other legislation that fits your bill. Don't we have the capacity to understand that many people find abortion abhorant? These "abortion limiting bills" aren't targetting women. They're targetting abortion.

    If these bills pass, then that's the will of the people, yes? (At least it should be.) Every state doesn't enjoy a Republican majority. And if those kinds of laws pass in a state that does have a Republican majority, well, then next session...when the Dems are in charge...they can reverse the legislation, no?

    All Democrats are not for abortion. All Republicans are not against it.
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    ED drugs treat real medical problems that aren't limited to the "elderly"--for example, many standard meds can cause ED--diuretics, anti-depressants, and blood pressure pills.
    It's not just about older guys who've had prostatic cancer and loss function.

    I'm looking forward to the older men (defined here as not 20-somethings, LOL) on this board putting to rest the idea that their sex drives have plummeted. And maybe their affirmation that being able to get it up is something they desire for themselves and not necessarily at the demand of wives who threaten to cheat.
    I'm 45 and I take viagra.

    I also take heart medications blood pressure medications diuretics.

    Quality is IMHO a important part of health issues. Getting depressed is not healthy and using viagira improves my quality of life.

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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I think it is a good idea. If controls women's bodies in relation to sexuality, government also should control men's bodies in relation to sexuality. The reason for proposing such legislation is to establish the Republican's legislation singularly targets women.


    You do realize this is a false argument, republicans could give a **** if birth control is covered, what the problem is, is forcing a church who has a university to have BC paid for through thier health insurance.

    The left is lying about the argument framing it the way you are framing it, in a ditch to scare people into voting for them. It is as transparent as day.
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    You do realize this is a false argument, republicans could give a **** if birth control is covered, what the problem is, is forcing a church who has a university to have BC paid for through thier health insurance.

    The left is lying about the argument framing it the way you are framing it, in a ditch to scare people into voting for them. It is as transparent as day.
    If that's all that Republicans care about, why did they file the Blount-Rubio amendment seeking to allow ANY employer to drop coverage for birth control?
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If that's all that Republicans care about, why did they file the Blount-Rubio amendment seeking to allow ANY employer to drop coverage for birth control?
    Well, I'll "Like" that because I wasn't aware of it.

    But the Blount Amendment actually says something to the effect that employers should not have to include specifics in their healthcare plan that they find objectionable. It had the support of four Democrats, by the way. Oh, and it was absolutely NOT limited to birth control or women's issues...any treatments they find objectionable.

    How do we spell stupid? Blount Amendment.

    This is alllll because of Obamacare mandating minimum coverage requirements. Nothing more.
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, I'll "Like" that because I wasn't aware of it.

    But the Blount Amendment actually says something to the effect that employers should not have to include specifics in their healthcare plan that they find objectionable. It had the support of four Democrats, by the way. Oh, and it was absolutely NOT limited to birth control or women's issues...any treatments they find objectionable.

    How do we spell stupid? Blount Amendment.

    This is alllll because of Obamacare mandating minimum coverage requirements. Nothing more.
    It sounds to me like a pretty good argument for minimum coverage requirements ... at least as long as we're going to rely on employer-provided health coverage. The federal government pays close to $500 billion a year to support employer-based coverage, so it doesn't seem unreasonable to me that they would impose some minimal guidelines as a condition of that support.
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it was in the op.........the trend has been to try to impose ridiculous abortion restrictions on women. the point is that abortion is a legal procedure and women DO have the right to privacy. that means it's unreasonable to expect a woman to undergo an unnecessary procedure to obtain one. so, why not force men to undergo unreasonable procedures to obtain a drug that enhances their sex life? point: men and women are stilled treated, and viewed, from a healthcare perspective, very differently, and that needs to end.
    How is ED treatment equivalent to abortion?
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Its happening because of the whole contraception cluster**** with religious institutions and frankly I welcome it. The GOP has claimed (some at least) that there is no medical reason for female contraception and hence these female lawmakers are saying there is no medical reason for Viagra in most men. Now if a man does have a problem getting it up, then he should not only supply a legal document from a doctor and his wife, but also be subjugated to an invasive rectal exam to see if it is true. After all that is what the GOP wants to do with women in some states..

    They should also target male masturbation, since that is killing babies as well and deserve just as harsh treatment as women getting an abortion.
    Yes, because obviously the solution to too many laws is to make more laws.
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    Re: Third female lawmaker introduces bill to limit menís Viagra access

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    How is ED treatment equivalent to abortion?
    I think that was explained in the quote you commented to. Both are issues of privacy and in the case of abortion forcing a woman to get an ultrasound is an unnecessary step. So forcing men to also undergo an unnecessary step shouldn't be a problem with conservatives who don't believe in privacy.

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