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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    no and yes you are
    its not that cut a dry. what he wants is women to have access to cheap/free BC whether that is provided by the employer OR the insurance company.

    So I again ask you for proof of what you claimed? Your claim may be true but I have seen nothing to suggest so.

    You told me obama disagrees with the partial quote of mine you posted, Im asked you why that matters and how you know that?

    Let me know when you have an answer.
    Reread my post. It was about health insurance policies and made no mention of employers.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    That isn't what this is about. Your comments might be relevant in a different thread.

    please explain why they are not relevant, they are very relevant because its the common sense logic that get him to the conclusion that business have not right to decided your personal health care based on anything that is discriminatory. They can do it on finances or partnership or availability but they arent allowed to interject their morals and religious beliefs in it. Like he siad its none of their business>
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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    this again?
    they arent forced at all, there is no force in reality, they don't have to run a public business if they dont want to. BUT if they do they have to play by the same rules has EVERYONE, no special treatment, the reason would be discrimination and rights infringements.
    I didn't say they were forced to do something; I said they were forced to CHOOSE.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Reread my post. It was about health insurance policies and made no mention of employers.
    NO, YOU reread what you quoted me as saying, quite dodging and back up your statements LMAO

    why can you never simply be honest and back up your statements.
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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    I didn't say they were forced to do something; I said they were forced to CHOOSE.
    yep you sure did but thats not all you said.
    You said exactly "choose between their morals, and providing health insurance to their employees" this isnt true!

    the choice is to get involved in public business or not get involved in public business hence the rest of my post which you conveniently ignore that supports and explains what Im saying. WOW

    oh-hum LMAO can you ever reply in content and reality? EVERY? lol
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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    NO, YOU reread what you quoted me as saying, quite dodging and back up your statements LMAO

    why can you never simply be honest and back up your statements.
    Actually, you're right. I did confuse employers with insurance policies. I apologize. Why do you assume that it wasn't an honest mistake?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Actually, you're right. I did confuse employers with insurance policies. I apologize. Why do you assume that it wasn't an honest mistake?
    thank you and I accept you apology, thats very mature and adult like of you!

    Why do I assume it wasn't an honest mistake? that's easy, your post history and the many other "mistakes" you have made and never claimed to have.

    Everyone starts with a clean slate, then I can only judge you by what you show me and you have shown plenty of dishonesty.
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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    yep you sure did but thats not all you said.
    You said exactly "choose between their morals, and providing health insurance to their employees" this isnt true!

    the choice is to get involved in public business or not get involved in public business hence the rest of my post which you conveniently ignore that supports and explains what Im saying. WOW

    oh-hum LMAO can you ever reply in content and reality? EVERY? lol
    Some employers provide health insurance to their employees. A portion of them provide a policy that doesn't cover BC. This mandate prohibits that. Some employers are morally opposed to paying for BC. If they also want to provide health insurance to their employees, they can't do both, so they're forced to choose. Those are the facts. If I'm wrong, prove it.

    IMHO, employers shouldn't be forced to make this choice without a good reason. I haven't seen a reason that satisfies me. Those are opinions, so I can't prove that they're right, but you can't prove that they're wrong.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    Why do I assume it wasn't an honest mistake? that's easy, your post history and the many other "mistakes" you have made and never claimed to have.

    Everyone starts with a clean slate, then I can only judge you by what you show me and you have shown plenty of dishonesty.
    false accusations, a weak form of debating
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Poll: Most say employers should be allowed not to cover contraception

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    false accusations, a weak form of debating

    I agree doesnt change your post history though LOL
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    Genetically human & human being is exactly the same thing.
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    there is no such thing as an abortion on a dead fetus.

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