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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    He is guilty until proven innocent.
    He confessed. Of course, I realize that doesn't make a difference to those of you ready to make him a hero for killing women and babies while they slept.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    He confessed. Of course, I realize that doesn't make a difference to those of you ready to make him a hero for killing women and babies while they slept.
    Please point out who wanted to make this guy a hero for murdering women and baies when they slept, okay? We'll both attack whoever said that. You wouldn't lie, would you?

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    He confessed. Of course, I realize that doesn't make a difference to those of you ready to make him a hero for killing women and babies while they slept.
    I have no idea who you are speaking about, but I don't know of anyone who thinks he is a "hero". I would hope that most of us think he's a very sick man. He cracked. He has an excuse. Now the islamists who murder hundreds and hundreds of women and children, what is their excuse?

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    I have no idea who you are speaking about, but I don't know of anyone who thinks he is a "hero". I would hope that most of us think he's a very sick man. He cracked. He has an excuse. Now the islamists who murder hundreds and hundreds of women and children, what is their excuse?
    Yes he is sick.
    But why does it matter what the excuse of the islamists are? They dont represent us. You say "whats their excuse" as if its some sort of back ally excuse.


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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

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    No, Catawba, but I'm sure you'll come up with a very good excuse.
    Not that you would be interested, but it is part of the historical record:

    "As the Shah's regime, supported by the U.S., became increasingly repressive, riots in 1978 developed into a state of virtual civil war. In early 1979 popular opposition forced the shah to leave the country. Hundreds of the shah's supporters were tried and executed, others fled the country, and the westernization of Iran was reversed. Khomeini, who had returned to Iran in triumph in February 1979, presided over the establishment of an Islamic republic.

    On 4 November 1979, after the shah had been allowed entry into the United States for medical care, militant Iranians stormed the US embassy in Teheran, taking 66 Americans hostage. The militants demanded that the shah be turned over to face trial and that billions of dollars he had allegedly took abroad be returned. Thirteen of the hostages were soon released, but another 53 were held until an agreement was negotiated that freed the hostages on 20 January 1981. Unable to persuade Iran to release them, President Carter ordered a military rescue mission, which failed, resulting in the deaths of eight American servicemen when their aircraft collided in the Iranian desert."

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    The soldier has been identified as Army Staff Sgt. Robert Bales

    World News - NBC News: US soldier suspected in Afghanistan massacre identified


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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Won't slog through all the previous pages, but if no one else has posted this, the name of the person has been revealed:

    Soldier accused of killing Afghan civilians identified - Yahoo! News

    Staff Sergeant Robert Bales

    EDIT: dang
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Fears Of Afghan Violence Amid Friday Prayers

    "It has become something of a common phenomenon throughout the Arab Spring that Friday prayers presage some sort of action by the people.

    In Syria, Libya and Egypt those mosque meetings gathered and united people and got them on to the streets in protest against their dictatorial leaders.
    The fact is the Friday prayer can be an ignition point throughout the Muslim world; which is why the Afghan government, the international community and the security forces here have been holding their collective breath ahead of this week's prayers.

    If the religious leaders of Afghanistan deliver fiery sermons condemning the killings of 16 mainly women and children by an American soldier, there could be chaos.
    Security has been beefed up and the Isaf forces are preparing for Taliban attacks and potential demonstrations at the doors of their camps.
    The decision by the US to move the alleged killer to Kuwait has not gone down well here. Many Afghans wanted the soldier to be tried in an Afghan court or at the very least in Afghanistan. They had been promised a transparent hearing... and answers.

    In Afghanistan they expect justice fast and, here, fast is this week not a few months or, given the American legal system, potentially years.
    Collectively, they will think the soldier has been spirited away and there will be a cover-up.

    Add to the mix President Hamid Karzai's demands that American forces, and for that matter all Isaf forces, should withdraw from their small operating bases in villages and work out of their main bases; then there is great potential for the whole aftermath of this terrible incident to turn even nastier."

    Afghanistan Killings: Friday Prayers May Herald Violence After Civilians Shot | World News | Sky News
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBerry View Post
    Won't slog through all the previous pages, but if no one else has posted this, the name of the person has been revealed:

    Soldier accused of killing Afghan civilians identified - Yahoo! News

    Staff Sergeant Robert Bales

    EDIT: dang
    I am sure SSgt Bales will end up on death row eventually.

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