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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    The Reason the US went to Afghanistan was because of 9-11, where some 3400 civillians were killed in the US.
    By Saudis, not afghans, not Iraqis, but Saudis.


    The same outrage felt by Afghanistans about the 16 people killed by a rogue US soldier, was felt by the West, for 9-11, for the 3400 civillian deaths.
    Well, we have killed thousands more innocent civilians in countries that never attacked us, did that assuage your outrage???

    The Taliban had no idea that Al Qaida was planning civillian deaths in the West? You are claiming that the Taliban and no Afghans assisted Al Qaida in any way with 9-11? Afghanistan was a haven for anti-Western terrorist groups, leading up to 9-11.
    Terrorists are spread out all over the world. We could have handled them a lot more effectively like we did with Bin Laden than we did with a large ground troop presence and killing thousands of civilians and thereby turning sympathies further towards the Taliban.


    Afghanistan has been a source of Opium and Marijuana, and has resulted in drug overdose deaths in the US. The drug trade invites violence in the distribution process of drugs. Afghanistan is a central core of violence in the West.


    "2000 - causes of death - illicit drug use) "Illicit drug use is associated with suicide, homicide, motor-vehicle injury, HIV infection, pneumonia, violence, mental illness, and hepatitis. An estimated 3 million individuals in the United States have serious drug problems. Several studies have reported an undercount of the number of deaths attributed to drugs by vital statistics; however, improved medical treatments have reduced mortality from many diseases associated with illicit drug use. In keeping with the report by McGinnis and Foege, we included deaths caused indirectly by illicit drug use in this category. We used attributable fractions to compute the number of deaths due to illicit drug use. Overall, we estimate that illicit drug use resulted in approximately 17000 deaths in 2000, a reduction of 3000 deaths from the 1990 report."

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    And you think our placement of a corrupt central government in a country mainly ruled by tribal laws for 10,000 years is going to have any lasting effect???

    We are just contributing to the deaths there, both of Afghans and Coalition forces, and pissing off the Afghans in the process, and spending ourselves into bankruptcy. Where are all those who thought we need to reduce our deficit spending???
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Eddie Slovik, you are about to have company.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    By Saudis, not afghans, not Iraqis, but Saudis.
    No by members of an international organization comprised of radical Muslims known as al-Qaeda which was part of the Taliban government and military and which recruited for, planned for, trained for, financed from, and launched from numerous attacks against the U.S. out of Afghanistan.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That happened because of our war there, in addition to the thousands of civilians we have killed in our war there, vs zero American civilians killed here by Afghans.

    Um no they started this war by intentionally killing 3,000 of our civilians, the war in Afghanistan is a defensive war on the part of the U.S. and they were the aggressors, you can throw in that "Afghan" bit, but it's laughable, because AQ is an international organization and AQ was a member of the Taliban government and military having a seat on their ministry of defense and forming their 055 Brigade.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Eddie Slovik, you are about to have company.

    Eddie Slovik was a World War II US Army deserter, in France, who probably had PTSD. Eddie Slovick was shot, and killed, by a firing squad in France.


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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    No by members of an international organization comprised of radical Muslims known as al-Qaeda which was part of the Taliban government and military and which recruited for, planned for, trained for, financed from, and launched from numerous attacks against the U.S. out of Afghanistan.
    al Qaeda are located all over the world. Are you planning decade long wars, killing thousand of innocent civilians, in all of these countries:

    Al-Qaeda around the world

    What has our war on Afghanistan and Iraq done to make us safe from terrorist attacks in the future???
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    al Qaeda are located all over the world. Are you planning decade long wars, killing thousand of innocent civilians, in all of these countries:
    AQ wasn't operating clandestinely out of Afghanistan they were there with the full knowledge and protection of the Taliban government, they were a part of the Taliban government and military sitting on the Taliban's ministry of defense and forming their 055 Brigade and they had launched numerous attacks against the U.S. out of Afghanistan and the Taliban continued to grant them safe haven up to and even after the 9-11 attacks.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormageddon View Post
    AQ wasn't operating clandestinely out of Afghanistan they were there with the full knowledge and protection of the Taliban government, they were a part of the Taliban government and military sitting on the Taliban's ministry of defense and forming their 055 Brigade and they had launched numerous attacks against the U.S. out of Afghanistan and the Taliban continued to grant them safe haven up to and even after the 9-11 attacks.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    I just saw on the news that the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans is on a plane and headed back to the USA.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Neal N. Bloeme View Post
    I just saw on the news that the soldier who murdered 16 Afghans is on a plane and headed back to the USA.

    "The U.S. military flew the soldier suspected of killing 16 Afghan villagers to another country Wednesday for long-term detention, a Pentagon official said"

    U.S. military flies shooting suspect out of Afghanistan


    The assailant may be suicidal. Seems like it would have been better PR to keep the assailant in Afghanistan.




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