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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    This just happened yesterday. Just because nothing's happened yet doesn't mean nothing will happen at all. I think it's very probable that there will be a great amount of backlash.
    That was my point. I happened yesterday but Obama was on the phone the same day without knowing the circumstances apologizing about it. I wonder what he actually said in the apology without knowing what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I'm not too worried. I figure that the average Afghani can see the obvious truth in my post, perhaps better than you've managed. Really, it's common sense. They see us prosecuting the criminal and notice a difference between the US and terrorists - even if you can't see it.

    How is average Afghani going to see anything? I don't think they have flat screens in every house or even know what has happened.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That was my point. I happened yesterday but Obama was on the phone the same day without knowing the circumstances apologizing about it. I wonder what he actually said in the apology without knowing what happened.
    one of our soldiers murdered 16 of your people including nine children
    why would such an act NOT deserve an immediate apology
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    That was my point. I happened yesterday but Obama was on the phone the same day without knowing the circumstances apologizing about it. I wonder what he actually said in the apology without knowing what happened.
    Why should he know any further information before apologizing when a US soldier went on a rampage where he killed 9 children? Is there anything that would make his crimes less worthy of an apology? I do not think so.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Why should he know any further information before apologizing when a US soldier went on a rampage where he killed 9 children? Is there anything that would make his crimes less worthy of an apology? I do not think so.
    It is never a good idea to talk without having the facts. What did Obama say in his apology? He didn't know how it happened nor did he know why. Yes it is important the facts of the case.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    It is never a good idea to talk without having the facts. What did Obama say in his apology? He didn't know how it happened nor did he know why. Yes it is important the facts of the case.
    the facts of the case, which Obama knew, are not in dispute. a soldier of the USA military murdered 16 afghan citizens, including nine children
    no other information needs to be known for a rational person to recognize that an apology is in order
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's interesting is that this guy is taken as an exception, which he is, and that he "just snapped", or that there might have been serious psychological or physical brain damage.

    When a Muslim does much the same thing these excuses are never made. It seems that just being a Muslim is a ready made excuse.


    I guess you miss catawbas post where he essentially infers we are all terrorists.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    So what is the process, if a US Army Soldier feels hs should not finish the time for which he is assigned in Afghanistan? What is the process if a US Army soldier feels one of his men, or officers, should go home before finishing the assigned length of the tour of duty? Is it more important that soliders finish their assgned length of tour of duty, or is it also important that if a soldier starts to lose it on tour, that the soldier get returned back to the states, sooner than later?

    What meds was this soldier taking? Psychotropics? Anti-Depressants? Many shool shooting involve Anti-Depressants.


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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I guess you miss catawbas post where he essentially infers we are all terrorists.
    Not we. Just the US military. Anyone who uses violence or the threat or violence (typically to achieve a political goal) is defined to be a terrorist, and so the US military certainly qualifies.

    The American people, OTOH, aren't responsible for the actions of the military since they're not part of the chain of command. . .

    Corporations/oil cos/mining cos -> CINC -> SECDEF -> UCCs -> senior commissioned officers -> commissioned officers -> enlisted troops

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Not we. Just the US military. Anyone who uses violence or the threat or violence (typically to achieve a political goal) is defined to be a terrorist, and so the US military certainly qualifies.

    The American people, OTOH, aren't responsible for the actions of the military since they're not part of the chain of command. . .

    Corporations/oil cos/mining cos -> CINC -> SECDEF -> UCCs -> senior commissioned officers -> commissioned officers -> enlisted troops


    And yet another post calling US troops terrorists.....
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