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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Oh Jeesh, this is all we need right now............. I only hope the retaliation doesn't increase the death tolls in Afghanistan, and that this incident along with other recent incidents may spur a quicker withdrawal.
    the my lai massacre of this generation/this occupation
    let's compare to the original one [NSFW]
    The My Lai Massacre in Pictures

    that massacre possibly was the triggering incident which caused our population to re-evaluate our presence in another land
    this one will likely provoke similar public introspection about our unnecessary wars

    should that actually result, there will have been a slender thread of benefit from this tragedy
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the my lai massacre of this generation/this occupation
    let's compare to the original one [NSFW]
    The My Lai Massacre in Pictures

    that massacre possibly was the triggering incident which caused our population to re-evaluate our presence in another land
    this one will likely provoke similar public introspection about our unnecessary wars

    should that actually result, there will have been a slender thread of benefit from this tragedy
    I can only hope this massacre will stir the same public introspection about our continued war there. That is the only possible good thing this tragedy could produce IMO.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The Afghans sure as hell would be!
    Yeah but nobody cares what they think.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yeah but nobody cares what they think.
    I do, and I think I am not the only one that cares what the Afghans think.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    I'll reserve judgement. It just sounded strange to me, to do something entirely irrational and then something completely rational within minutes rang alarms.
    I wish Obama was as smart as you are.

    He immediately called to apologize for ther incedent without knowing the circumstances.

    Shouldn't the President know what happened before making a call like that?

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I wish Obama was as smart as you are.

    He immediately called to apologize for ther incedent without knowing the circumstances.

    Shouldn't the President know what happened before making a call like that?
    What possible future information would alter the necessity of offering an immediate apology for an American serviceman killing 16 civilians???
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What possible future information would alter the necessity of offering an immediate apology for an American serviceman killing 16 civilians???
    LoL going into peoples homes with night vision and murdering families in the night like a psychopath.

    What's there to apologise to people about?

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I do, and I think I am not the only one that cares what the Afghans think.
    Really? That's disconnected. It gets worse if someone presumes that Afghans do not understand that there are crazy people and we prosecute them. We do not hold them up as idols or glorify them as 'martyrs'. We prosecute them; they are criminals. Losing sight of this simple concept is like losing sight of illegal/improper use is misuse.

    There are crazies in every group. The only real question is, does the group support, condone or otherwise advocate such atrocity. In the case of the US, no. In the case of terrorists, yes. He could very well be put to death via military court. I'm not sure how insanity pleas work in the UCMJ, but some member probably knows.

    Yes, we're sorry that we cannot catch all the crazies before they go total wackjob. We don't manage to do it in the US either, military nor civilian. We are also committed to seeing justice served. He's not a hero.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Really? That's disconnected. It gets worse if someone presumes that Afghans do not understand that there are crazy people and we prosecute them. We do not hold them up as idols or glorify them as 'martyrs'. We prosecute them; they are criminals. Losing sight of this simple concept is like losing sight of illegal/improper use is misuse.

    There are crazies in every group. The only real question is, does the group support, condone or otherwise advocate such atrocity. In the case of the US, no. In the case of terrorists, yes. He could very well be put to death via military court. I'm not sure how insanity pleas work in the UCMJ, but some member probably knows.
    The guy will get life in prison at worst.
    For invading homes and slaughtering families you get deep fried fast.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    The guy will get life in prison at worst.
    For invading homes and slaughtering families you get deep fried fast.
    Iirc, insanity doesn't work in a military court. If it doesn't, then he could be the first military execution in a while.


    Hasan was formally arraigned on July 20, 2011.[138] He did not enter a plea, and the judge granted a request by Hasan's attorney's that a plea be entered at a later, unspecified, date. The judge set a trial date for Maj. Hasan's court martial for March 5, 2012
    (wiki)

    That guy could be executed as well, right?

    Same wiki:

    The military justice system rarely carries out capital punishment—and no executions have been carried out since 1961,[134][135] although, no incidents involving mass murder have been prosecuted by the military since then. (From 1916 to 1961, the U.S. Army executed 135 people.)[136] A Rasmussen national survey found that 65% of Americans favored the death penalty in Hasan's case, and that 60% want the case investigated as an act of terrorism.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting
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