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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Do we have rules to defend Americans?

    Isn't it understood we are on the American side?
    What rules do you need to defend American troops?


    I simply do not get it ... you are with Americans and you defend them or you are not! Period!
    I'm not sure what your point is, but my point is that you will not get banned for voicing your opinion on this issue, so I don't understand what you are afraid of.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm not sure what your point is, but my point is that you will not get banned for voicing your opinion on this issue, so I don't understand what you are afraid of.
    Ok.... we will see .... I am pro-American and that sometimes comes too strongly. That's it.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Mya View Post
    Ok.... we will see .... I am pro-American and that sometimes comes too strongly. That's it.
    If you don't break any of the forum rules, you will be fine and there will be no mod actions taken.
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    If you don't break any of the forum rules, you will be fine and there will be no mod actions taken.

    To despise the enemy is breaking the rules in some threads .... hey, I have been warned LOL

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    This one merits an apology from Obama.



    Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians
    Oh Jeesh, this is all we need right now............. I only hope the retaliation doesn't increase the death tolls in Afghanistan, and that this incident along with other recent incidents may spur a quicker withdrawal.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    If these same civilians were killed in a drone strike nobody would be talking about this right now.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Oh Jeesh, this is all we need right now............. I only hope the retaliation doesn't increase the death tolls in Afghanistan, and that this incident along other recent incidents may spur a quicker withdrawal.
    Right, like we're not trying to get out of there as fast as we can as it is.

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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If these same civilians were killed in a drone strike nobody would be talking about this right now.
    The Afghans sure as hell would be!
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Right, like we're not trying to get out of there as fast as we can as it is.
    Half way through 2014 is not as fast as we could get out of there.
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    Re: Official: U.S. soldier opened fire on Afghan civilians

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Half way through 2014 is not as fast as we could get out of there.
    Oh well. Not your call. Deal with it.

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