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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    From your article:

    The court stopped short of saying whether the exception would apply to nonministerial employees and left open the possibility that the Michigan Lutheran school teacher who sued might have a case under another legal argument. The court also pointedly avoided setting boundaries for who can be considered a religious employee, concluding only that Cheryl Perich fit the definition.
    I've linked this ruling for them before. There is other language that discusses the difference between nonministerial employees and clergy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    The source and the substance will be attacked.

    People aren't having less children in the industrialized world because they're not as religious.

    They're having less children because we're wealthier and having kids is expensive.

    ...
    I agree.
    Plus couples are are getting married later in life than in the past and are waiting longer to have a child.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I agree.
    Plus couples are are getting married later in life than in the past and are waiting longer to have a child.

    Why do you think that is happening? Not a gottcha question here.....


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    Re: 'Rush Limbaugh Show' Broadcasts Five Minutes of Dead Air as Sponsors Continue to

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why do you think that is happening? Not a gottcha question here.....


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    Because...

    As we said before the average citizen is wealthier. Kids are expensive.

    One of the biggest reasons I didn't think of before is that women are educated in our society, they want their own careers and are naturally having less kids.

    Sex education, birth control...

    All better reasons then "We're not as religious anymore".

    It's a crock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    From your article:

    The court stopped short of saying whether the exception would apply to nonministerial employees and left open the possibility that the Michigan Lutheran school teacher who sued might have a case under another legal argument. The court also pointedly avoided setting boundaries for who can be considered a religious employee, concluding only that Cheryl Perich fit the definition.
    You could have just read my assesment of the case to see that. I specificaly pointed that out and indicated they probably did it to get the unanimous decision.

    Now... here was your prior statement that started the discussion...
    Religious institutions do not have rights Individuals do.
    Do you stil linsist that religious institutions (this was a Lutheran school, not a church) do not have first ammendment rights?

    Wether those first ammendment rights will extend to non-ministral employees is still an open question, but based on prior, lower court rulings, it probably will and i suspect any teacher at any religious school will be considered a ministrial employee.

    Supreme Court Recognizes a 'Ministerial Exception' to Job-Discrimination Laws - Faculty - The Chronicle of Higher Education

    To help illustrate that all teachers are very likely to have hte ministrial exception applied:
    "We argued in our brief, and we believe on our campuses, that our faculty are essential to carrying out the religious mission" of religious colleges, said Shapri D. LoMaglio, director of government relations and executive programs for the council.
    To show you that even the opponents recognize that religious instituions have rights:
    Caroline Mala Corbin, an associate professor of law at the University of Miami who is a co-author of that brief, issued a statement that said, "It is a shame that in its zeal to protect the rights of religious institutions, the Supreme Court ignored the rights of the religious individuals who work at those institutions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why do you think that is happening? Not a gottcha question here.....


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    I know for my 4 children their #1 goal was completing thier education and starting a career before thinking about marriage.
    My yongest will be married this summer at the age of 28.
    2 of my older children were almost 30 when they got married and my other one is still single.

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    2 of my children are women and 2 are men.
    Last edited by minnie616; 03-18-12 at 11:54 PM.
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    Re: 'Rush Limbaugh Show' Broadcasts Five Minutes of Dead Air as Sponsors Continue to

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ofcourse not...Don't be silly.

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    So what did you mean by this?


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    Yeah, veterans groups....Like who? Why did they not name them? Probably IVAW, or some such leftist front group...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Because...

    As we said before the average citizen is wealthier. Kids are expensive.
    If people are wealthier they should be able to afford more children.

    And if they can't, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If people are wealthier they should be able to afford more children.

    And if they can't, why not?
    Not necessarily how it works. Don't need kids to help in fields anymore, for example. And people now have the freedom to move around and play more, and this effects the desire to have kids. And let's not forget careers. Not having children has little to do with affording them. In fact, I would say not being able to afford them has never stopped people from having them. But if I have plenty of money, and I want a career and toys, children may well go to the back burner, if I consider having them at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not necessarily how it works. Don't need kids to help in fields anymore, for example. And people now have the freedom to move around and play more, and this effects the desire to have kids. And let's not forget careers. Not having children has little to do with affording them. In fact, I would say not being able to afford them has never stopped people from having them. But if I have plenty of money, and I want a career and toys, children may well go to the back burner, if I consider having them at all.
    What's now called "careers" used to be called jobs.

    Is the careerless rate still stuck at 8.3%?

    This generation is having fewer children because they want to "move around and play more", creating ever increasing debt, aborting much of the next generation and establishing social programs which will have ever fewer numbers to pay for them. What a bunch of dumbasses.

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