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    That would rather defeat the purpose of insurance, wouldn't it? Given that the cost of adding the coverage would be the same cost as buying the medication yourself?


    So you admit it is pretty freakin cheap. whats the problem then? I have no problem with an insurance company offering it under thier umbrella plan actually, I also have no problem with an ins co opting out of an elective medication. I also have no problem with a catholic university saying "no", it's that whole freedom thing, it is a bitch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    So you admit it is pretty freakin cheap. whats the problem then? I have no problem with an insurance company offering it under thier umbrella plan actually, I also have no problem with an ins co opting out of an elective medication. I also have no problem with a catholic university saying "no", it's that whole freedom thing, it is a bitch.
    I didn't say whether the price would be high or low -- I said it would be the same. In other words, if there's no cost sharing involved there's no point in having it insured.

    Personally, I don't have a problem with employers not paying for BC that's prescribed for non-medical reasons. I think the vast majority of them would pay for it anyway, as it's been shown to be more economical than not covering it. Also, 28 states already require it.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't say whether the price would be high or low -- I said it would be the same. In other words, if there's no cost sharing involved there's no point in having it insured.

    Personally, I don't have a problem with employers not paying for BC that's prescribed for non-medical reasons. I think the vast majority of them would pay for it anyway, as it's been shown to be more economical than not covering it. Also, 28 states already require it.

    So then we agree, it should be up to the ins co's, employers etc, and fluke was wrong to go into a democrat press conference to complain about a catholic universities health care policy.
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    So then we agree, it should be up to the ins co's, employers etc, and fluke was wrong to go into a democrat press conference to complain about a catholic universities health care policy.
    I don't 100% agree with Fluke's position, but she certainly was not wrong to express it, nor did she deserve to be slandered over the course of three days on a national radio show for giving it.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I don't 100% agree with Fluke's position, but she certainly was not wrong to express it, nor did she deserve to be slandered over the course of three days on a national radio show for giving it.



    No Rush was a sexist dirt bag for his comments, However, I also think much of the outrage was more to "get rush" than it was to protect the womans honor, otherwise, you wouldn't see so many people making excuses for left wing political commentators, satirists, making equally abhorrent statments.
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    No Rush was a sexist dirt bag for his comments, However, I also think much of the outrage was more to "get rush" than it was to protect the womans honor, otherwise, you wouldn't see so many people making excuses for left wing political commentators, satirists, making equally abhorrent statments.
    I think that's certainly a part of it. There was obviously a lot of pent-up anger at Limbaugh.

    But I don't buy the comparison to what Maher and others have done. The public/private figure distinction is legitimate, and Maher's worst comments came in his stand-up routine and not during his semi-comedy-semi-political show.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I think that's certainly a part of it. There was obviously a lot of pent-up anger at Limbaugh.

    But I don't buy the comparison to what Maher and others have done. The public/private figure distinction is legitimate, and Maher's worst comments came in his stand-up routine and not during his semi-comedy-semi-political show.


    willow is a private citizen who is also a minor.


    And some of maher's comments were indeed on his political roundtable commentary satire show.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't say whether the price would be high or low -- I said it would be the same. In other words, if there's no cost sharing involved there's no point in having it insured.

    Personally, I don't have a problem with employers not paying for BC that's prescribed for non-medical reasons. I think the vast majority of them would pay for it anyway, as it's been shown to be more economical than not covering it. Also, 28 states already require it.
    Yes, 28 states already do require that birth control be covered but as Fluke pointed out sometimes even woman with medical conditions are not covered by University insurance. because the university clinic refuses to perscribe birth control even if the woman has a medical condition.

    Unfortunately, even though we have contraceptive coverage thanks to the protections of New York state law, Fordham students still do not have access to affordable contraception. This is because our health centers, where students with University insurance are meant to receive our primary and gynecological care, will not prescribe contraception. So, whether a student needs contraception to prevent pregnancy, treat a medical condition or both – she has to pay a $100 deductible to visit a doctor off-campus for a prescription – even if she already underwent a gynecological exam on-campus in the mistaken belief that Fordham provided standard care. One hundred dollars on top of a monthly copayment is a significant barrier to practicing contraception for a student living on loans.

    The experiences of women at Fordham show that though health exemptions from birth control bans may seem workable in theory, they are not in practice.
    The Fordham health centers tell us they have a health exception, but , students report being turned away despite medical conditions some of them quite dangerous or painful.
    Students have been refused contraception despite having endometriosis, severe acne, ovarian cysts, and a high risk of ovarian cancer.
    Despite State Birth Control Mandate, Fordham Law Students Lack Access to Affordable Contraception Even for Medical Reasons | RH Reality Check
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Yes, 28 states already do require that birth control be covered but as Fluke pointed out sometimes even woman with medical conditions are not covered by University insurance. because the university clinic refuses to perscribe birth control even if the woman has a medical condition.



    Despite State Birth Control Mandate, Fordham Law Students Lack Access to Affordable Contraception Even for Medical Reasons | RH Reality Check


    so we are to take her word on it? I don't think so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    so we are to take her word on it? I don't think so.
    Whose word?
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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