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    Now to be clear.

    I am not advocating that birth control pills should be paid for by employers or insurance companies with no co-pays.
    I do feel however when birth control pills are needed to treat or control medical conditions such as PCOS, migraine headaches, and endometriosis the BC medications should be readily available with the same type of co-pay the insurance uses for diabetic meds, thyroid meds, erectile dysfuntion drugs, asthma drugs,etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Now to be clear.

    I am not advocating that birth control pills should be paid for by employers or insurance companies with no co-pays.
    I do feel however when birth control pills are needed to treat or control medical conditions such as PCOS, migraine headaches, and endometriosis the BC medications should be readily available with the same type of co-pay the insurance uses for diabetic meds, thyroid meds, erectile dysfuntion drugs, asthma drugs,etc.
    That's reasonable, and I would agree. Had Obama passed that law, I wouldn't have argued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    It has been my experience that insurance companies try to find reasons to avoid paying for a treatment if they can.
    It is easy for the insurance companies who do not cover any type of birth control to refuse coverage of BC pills for medical issues because after all a side effect of the BC medication is advoiding pregnancy.

    Did you know that almost half of the woman who take birth control have at least one other reason ( besides preventing pregnancies) for taking them?

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    Editorial: Birth control serves many purposes | Kansan.com





    In reality, unless its for any other medical reason, insurance shouldn't pay for your birth control anymore than it should pay for plastic surgurey, If they elect to do so, bully for you, but given fluke I heard is traipsing around spain these days, perhaps, she should have saved her enough for tha 9 bucks a month a poor law student can get it for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    "14 percent of all women who take the pill do so for reasons unrelated to controlling pregnancy."

    More than 726,000 women who take birth control pills have never had sex.
    More than 95 percent of those users say they take the pill for reasons other than contraception.[

    Maybve it's not by choice.... Anyway, This whole argument is silly, I guess "safe sex" and "condoms" are no longer in vogue....
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    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Now to be clear.

    I am not advocating that birth control pills should be paid for by employers or insurance companies with no co-pays.
    I do feel however when birth control pills are needed to treat or control medical conditions such as PCOS, migraine headaches, and endometriosis the BC medications should be readily available with the same type of co-pay the insurance uses for diabetic meds, thyroid meds, erectile dysfuntion drugs, asthma drugs,etc.


    This I agree with, common sense approach. Sadly, this is not what the far left is framing the argument as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    This I agree with, common sense approach. Sadly, this is not what the far left is framing the argument as.
    So, presumably you would say the same thing about Viagra? No coverage unless there is a signed statement from a doctor saying that it's absoutely necessary in order for the patient to achieve an erection, as opposed to just being used to enhance performance?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So, presumably you would say the same thing about Viagra? No coverage unless there is a signed statement from a doctor saying that it's absoutely necessary in order for the patient to achieve an erection, as opposed to just being used to enhance performance?


    Absolutley, why not, if it's elective, it should be "elective" for the provider. Why should I pay for you to get an erection you can't get on your own and for your GF to get freeBC pills? You pay for it. either yourself, or through your higher premiums, don't jack mine up. (all "you's" are general and not you you's)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Absolutley, why not, if it's elective, it should be "elective" for the provider. Why should I pay for you to get an erection you can't get on your own and for your GF to get freeBC pills? You pay for it. either yourself, or through your higher premiums, don't jack mine up. (all "you's" are general and not you you's)
    And you don't think guys would lie to get the pills covered by insurance? And the docs wouldn't go along with a wink and a nod?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And you don't think guys would lie to get the pills covered by insurance? And the docs wouldn't go along with a wink and a nod?



    guys?


    the day male BC pills come out, you could charge $500 a month for it and they would be lining up around the corner. Lets be real here.


    Oh you mean viagra, medical fraud is an issue, shouldn't deter doing the right thing. if the dude wants ed pills cover, elect to add that coverage.


    Like flood insurance, we don't all need it, so we all don't pay it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    guys?


    the day male BC pills come out, you could charge $500 a month for it and they would be lining up around the corner. Lets be real here.


    Oh you mean viagra, medical fraud is an issue, shouldn't deter doing the right thing. if the dude wants ed pills cover, elect to add that coverage.


    Like flood insurance, we don't all need it, so we all don't pay it.
    That would rather defeat the purpose of insurance, wouldn't it? Given that the cost of adding the coverage would be the same cost as buying the medication yourself?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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