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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if a proportionate number of majority/white residents are taking the test and failing in disproportionate numbers, and the federal court finds that the qualifying test is rigged, yes, discrimination would then be indicated
    there is no evidence of the test being rigged...unless you follow the "corrolation=causation" idea.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    or he saw a group of good ole boys who were passing along job openings to their friends and family, using a test that the coached friends of the good ole boys would be expected to pass disproportionately
    Maybe so. That should be the basis of his ruling then not the test.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    the tests in question, where being rigged is suspected: what percent of the test-takers were black? what percent of them failed...as compared to whites who failed?

    what percent of the test-takers were Jews? what percent of them failed?

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    So. The answer to the apparent fact that insiders within the NYFD excluded minorities by their testing procedures is to penalize an already burdened taxpayer with a $128 million award.

    Yeah, that makes sense to me. Not. Legal penalties against the insiders who did this...not yet another crushing blow to taxpayers.
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    Jews make up 8% of NYC....yet much less than 8% of the FDNY.

    how come there ain't no AA for Jews in the FDNY???????????
    Yes - and as we all know Jews control the world with their minority of numbers yet dominance in every industry - so in all due actuality: Jews should be 100% of the force and everyone else should be a minority.

    Or is it that Jews are setting buildings on fire and thus financially benefiting from the expense of efforts?

    Either way: Jews dominate the world; we all know this. Common knowledge.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Yes - and as we all know Jews control the world with their minority of numbers yet dominance in every industry - so in all due actuality: Jews should be 100% of the force and everyone else should be a minority...
    more like 8%.

    and they should be 8% of the NYPD, Dept. of Sanitation, etc etc..

    and if they aint...clearly anti-Semitism is to blaim!!!!!


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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    So. The answer to the apparent fact that insiders within the NYFD excluded minorities by their testing procedures is to penalize an already burdened taxpayer with a $128 million award.

    Yeah, that makes sense to me. Not. Legal penalties against the insiders who did this...not yet another crushing blow to taxpayers.
    those NYC officials who allowed this to happen did so in their official capacity
    it is NYC's responsibility when their officials misbehave in such an expensive manner
    only if it can be found that the officials took those actions outside of their official capacity can they be sued as individuals. nothing indicates that was the case
    hire stupid people, expect stupid results. in this case stupid AND expensive
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Firefighters have responded to an apartment for an emergency water leak and are now standing in front of the door to the apartment. Which one of the following actions should the firefighters take first to gain entry into the apartment?

    A) Knock loudly on the door and then try the doorknob.
    B) Cut a hole in the door with a portable saw.
    C) Strike one of the door hinges with the back of an axe.
    D) Locate the fire escape and climb into the apartment through a window.

    I think it's C. If you are a firefighter, it's always good to whack something with your axe.
    The correct answer should be ... A.
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    those NYC officials who allowed this to happen did so in their official capacity
    it is NYC's responsibility when their officials misbehave in such an expensive manner
    only if it can be found that the officials took those actions outside of their official capacity can they be sued as individuals. nothing indicates that was the case
    hire stupid people, expect stupid results. in this case stupid AND expensive
    In my opinion, that "cover" needs to go away. This amounts to a carte blanc ticket for official misconduct. And if those people aren't elected officials, they don't answer to the taxpayer in any way/shape/form. It's about time we held people accountable for their actions instead of passing the buck. Without accountability, we're screwed. And this is one $128 million case on point.
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    I'm sorry folks, but just because the FDNY doesn't represent the racial & ethnic makeup of NYC, doesn't mean their hiring practises or testing is biased.

    as I have pointed out, Jews make up 8% of NYC...but more like 2% of the FDNY. Is this evidence of institutionalized anti-Semitism at the FDNY? no.

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