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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    A black dude that has hope off of welfare? GOOD! A thug gang member in Emergency Serives? BAD!
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    (CNN) -- A U.S. district judge ordered New York City to pay $128 million in to firefighters who allege the city used an entrance exam that deliberately sought to keep African-Americans and Latino Americans off the force. The judge also ordered the FDNY to hire 293 black and Latino applicants.
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    If you cannot pass that test, then you should not be a firefighter. The public safety is in the balance.
    Funny, they said the same in the South when trying to prevent voting by blacks.. Hello mr White Guy.. spell Cat.... Pass.. hello mr Black guy, spell supercalifragilisticexpialidocious... Fail, you too dumb to vote, hence voting right denied!
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    A black dude that has hope off of welfare? GOOD! A thug gang member in Emergency Serives? BAD!
    If youre qualified..... HEY! you are qualified!
    Oh, so any minority who can't pass the test is a "thug gang member"? Thanks for the clarification.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny, they said the same in the South when trying to prevent voting by blacks.. Hello mr White Guy.. spell Cat.... Pass.. hello mr Black guy, spell supercalifragilisticexpialidocious... Fail, you too dumb to vote, hence voting right denied!
    Is there any proof that minorities are forced to take a more difficult exam? Otherwise that comparison is a bit of a stretch to say the least.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Im still trying to figure out why the judge thinks blacks and latinos are too stupid to pass the test on their own merits.
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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    A couple observations. First, the city has had this problem before. Second, The test, if the selected sample questions are representative of the exam, is easy enough that even I, with no prior firefighting training, could pass it.

    So, if the city has responded to prior low minority pass rates by dumbing down the test in an attempt to get more minorities to pass, it seems they've dumbed it down so much that it may not have any bearing anymore on the job itself if a layperson can pass it.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Im still trying to figure out why the judge thinks blacks and latinos are too stupid to pass the test on their own merits.
    As that is not what he said, or even implied, you are being a little disingenuous.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

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    No quota's my ass.
    They are illegal, unless ordered by a court to make up for clearly documented past wrongs. However, even then, the peole hired must be qualified.

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    Re: FDNY ordered to hire minorities

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They are illegal, unless ordered by a court to make up for clearly documented past wrongs. However, even then, the peole hired must be qualified.
    And how are people suppose to know if they are qualified if the test that is given supposedly "has no bearing"? Even though from the sample questions given clearly show that they do have bearing? Take people at their word? Or perhaps we now need collage degree's and spend thousands of dollars to get that degree?

    As for quota's being illegal...thats BS. They might SAY its illegal but reality shows that its perfectly acceptable to have so long as it isn't obvious. Also if quota's are illegal then it would be illegal for the courts to mandate a quota...they are not above the law.
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