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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    SPLC statements are opinion.
    wrong. they are based on research.

    however, I don't think a majority of militias are dangerous. They are just silly boys playing with their toys.

    however, some of the miltias, filled with racist, anti-Semitic, radical assholes, should be monitored by state authorities and the FBI to make sure they aren't gonna blow up a federal building full of innocent civilians, or shoot up a court house.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Not to mention, SPLC statements are BIASED opinion.

    And of dubious accuracy. They don't seem to know the diff between militia and survivalists for instance, and blur the distinctions between violent and non-violent right-leaning orgs.


    I've long been convinced that ANYTHING the SPLC puts out is questionable at least, and often pure bull****.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    SPLC statements are opinion.
    well-researched & thoroughly studied opinions.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    wrong. they are based on research.

    however, I don't think a majority of militias are dangerous. They are just silly boys playing with their toys.

    however, some of the miltias, filled with racist, anti-Semitic, radical assholes, should be monitored by state authorities and the FBI to make sure they aren't gonna blow up a federal building full of innocent civilians, or shoot up a court house.
    Can you tell me when a hate group, other than those that existed prior to the 1960's (KKK and such) or miltia has killed anyone or blown up a building?

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Can you tell me when a hate group, other than those that existed prior to the 1960's (KKK and such) or miltia has killed anyone or blown up a building?
    you're kidding me???????????????????????????????

    Neo-Nazis haven't killed anyone???????????

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    you're kidding me???????????????????????????????

    Neo-Nazis haven't killed anyone???????????
    Neo-Nazi's existed prior to the 1960's

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    So the Southern Poverty Law Center is implying all militias are hate groups and extremists? Maybe they should practice what they preach, tolerance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    I don't think they said "all militias" and the SPLC does not preach "tolerate hate groups".
    That's a ridiculous statement.

    Then why does the SPLC group all militias as having characteristics that actualize hate? The article connects hate groups and militias with common motives, which is the theme of the article as noted in the first quotation below.

    If you believe what you wrote then you should reread until you comprehend.


    U.S. News - Election, economy spark explosive growth of militias

    "The increase has just been astounding," said Mark Potok, editor-in-chief of the SPLC report. "The reality is that many of these groups are becoming more and more fearful that Barack Obama will win the re-election. You can see the anger rising along with that fear."
    Is there data to prove this assertion?

    The SPLC defines the "patriot" movement as made up of conspiracy-minded individuals who see the federal government as their primary enemy.
    So now all patriot group members are conspirators, with the government as their primary enemy? The efficacy of their self-constructed definition couldn't be an act of partisan politics could it. (double-wink)
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Neo-Nazi's existed prior to the 1960's
    yeah, but many modern-day Neo-Nazi groups did NOT.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you prefer opinion...over evidence?

    pathetic. just pathetic.
    No, I prefer someone be precise when they make a statement, so I ask for that kind of precision.

    He jumped all over me for making too much of his statement, so is it too much to ask he tell me exactly how much I should make of it?

    I want to know what's in his mind when he says what he says.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    The Militia Movement -- Extremism in America

    here's a non-SPLC view of the militias.

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