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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why yes....Yes they do...
    running around the woods, amassing guns, doing tactical training huh?

    your links say no such thing.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Gimmsometruth,

    Yes i said "His family were white separatists, this does not make them racist ". If this is true than Weaver is every type of "ist" there is because he just wants to be left alone. It does not make him racist because he wants to be separate from everyone. At this point I don't blame him.

    Just as he would not want someone of a different race near him he would not want the Bill Maher near him, me, you. Goshin, Pamela Anderson, Larry Flint, Dick Cheney etc... etc... get it?
    I get that racial separatism and "not wanting to be near a different race" is racism, ie Randy and his family were racists. He did not reject having contact with other people, he sold weapons to others for income. No family is an island.

    Not wanting to be near entertainers or a former VP does not excuse someone from being a racist.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    running around the woods, amassing guns, doing tactical training huh?

    your links say no such thing.

    Your kidding right? What the hell do you think they are doing there?

    Terror Training Camps On American Soil - HUMAN EVENTS

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it's not. That's idiotic. Separatism goes against the entire notion of a "militia" in every way possible.

    Militia =/= separatist.

    Militia =/= white supremacist.

    Militia = members of a community coming together for mutual defense.
    Um....the militia movement DOES HAVE members who believe in separatism, so yes, separatism IS a part of the militia movement and will be a part of a conversation on militias. I did not introduce separatism or militias into this conversation.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Your kidding right? What the hell do you think they are doing there?

    Terror Training Camps On American Soil - HUMAN EVENTS

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    in Islamberg? looks like they're just living their lives.

    your article says nothing about tactical training and amassing weapons.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it's not. That's idiotic. Separatism goes against the entire notion of a "militia" in every way possible.

    Militia =/= separatist.

    Militia =/= white supremacist.

    Militia = members of a community coming together for mutual defense.
    so, there are no racist militias??


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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    What do you mean by that? Once they began committing crimes, the investigations began.

    But with innovations in law enforcement technology, criminology, and profiling, how many thousands of people have been apprehended before they got a change to really get started.

    Everyone stop what you''re doing and thank the FBI and AFT for every one they've picked up before he/she committed the next Oklahoma city.
    They had no idea who McVeigh was before he killed people, they had no idea who the SLA was until they killed people, it took years and years to find Ted K., The New Years Gang also got away with a bombing before the big one. The ones that really mattered are the ones the DOJ did not see. These hate groups and anti-government, environmentalists, animal rights groups generally fall apart due to disention in the ranks. Those who do not and have sinister plans have been apprehended before they accomplished their goals. However, you cannot put an eye on every group with an unpopular belief that acquires weapons legally. You are infringing on several rights afforded to them as american citizens.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um....the militia movement DOES HAVE members who believe in separatism, so yes, separatism IS a part of the militia movement and will be a part of a conversation on militias. I did not introduce separatism or militias into this conversation.

    Would that logic apply to 'Occupy' as well concerning anti capitalist, communists?


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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    ...However, you cannot put an eye on every group with an unpopular belief that acquires weapons legally. You are infringing on several rights afforded to them as american citizens.
    if 30 Muslim extremists are running around the woods of NY, doing tactical training, I want the FBI making sure they aren't planning ****.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    in Islamberg? looks like they're just living their lives.

    your article says nothing about tactical training and amassing weapons.
    I was speaking of Red House Va., are you ignoring that one?

    j-mac

    PS. An excerpt of the article you obviously didn't read.

    In 2005, the Department of Homeland Security included the group among “predicted possible sponsors of attacks” on American soil. And in 2006, the Department of Justice reported that Jamaat ul-Fuqra “has more than 35 suspected communes and more than 3,000 members spread across the United States, all in support of one goal: the purification of Islam through violence.” That means, of course, violence against unbelievers.

    Yet despite the fact that Justice and the DHS are obviously aware of what is going on, Jamaat ul-Fuqra continues to operate, relatively unhindered, in the United States.
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