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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Really?
    well, recently we have had




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    I'm getting tired of stating the fact that there is a threat from our own government. Just pay attention.
    You could triple the number of items and still not prove a 'threat'... just some isolated clusters of incompetency.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    taxigirl- so when do you think militias should start killing police or elected officials?

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I discussed your links at length, which I believe you ignored completely. In short, several of the the links you provided for "legitimate civilian militias" provide ample probably cause for these toy soldiers to be put under observation.
    I didn't mean to imply you. I was addressing the people that were currently on the thread. The links provided regarding militias are real militias, I did not make any statements regarding their mental state or intentions. I was trying to address the topic of the OP that there were many and they were not all haters. The posts I referred to that no one bothered to read were the ones reading Weaver. People kept making false assumptions / allegations and had no idea what they were talking about because they would not listen to me or read any of the information.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post

    It does not matter why someone feels they need more guns,
    If they intend to commit a crime, it sure as hell does matter.

    Your attempts to parse and paraphrase my posts are ignorant and pathetic.

    I advocate that law enforcement follow procedure and investigate suspicious activity.

    Fringe groups stockpiling guns is suspicious.

    These groups go outside the usually legal channels and get on the ATFs radar, then they bitch and scream that law effacement was overreaching when their plan to start trouble was foiled. "Those meddling kids..."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    taxigirl- so when do you think militias should start killing police or elected officials?
    That's an open question, but it's apparent that we should all just ignore them UNLESSS or UNTIL they start killing LEOs and blowing up federal buildings. That seems to be the lesson here.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    taxigirl- so when do you think militias should start killing police or elected officials?
    When did I say that?

    but since you ask, I think it would be appropriate when they knock down your door for no reason and do not identify themselves, when they do any other above atrocities, when they shoot innocent people, when they accidentally smoke out the wrong house, etc...

    I suggest you wikipedia elected officials killed while in office. You will find that they were generally killed by INDIVIDUALS. Are you placing a higher value on elected officials than your average Joe?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    ...but since you ask, I think it would be appropriate when they knock down your door for no reason and do not identify themselves, when they do any other above atrocities, when they shoot innocent people, when they accidentally smoke out the wrong house, etc...
    and what should the militias do, once this time has come?

    who should they kill?

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's an open question, but it's apparent that we should all just ignore them UNLESSS or UNTIL they start killing LEOs and blowing up federal buildings. That seems to be the lesson here.
    People who have succeeded with the most destructive acts of domestic terrorism were not even "on the radar". McVeigh, The News Years Gang, Ted Kaczynski, SLA, etc... if we don't know who they are we can't stop them. So we investigate everyone?

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    People who have succeeded with the most destructive acts of domestic terrorism were not even "on the radar". McVeigh, The News Years Gang, Ted Kaczynski, SLA, etc... if we don't know who they are we can't stop them. So we investigate everyone?
    folks who amass weapons, and have extremist ideologies, should be investigated to make sure they aren't planning on murdering people.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and what should the militias do, once this time has come?

    who should they kill?
    The people who are trying to kill them for no apparent reason. I'm not saying they should plot an overthrow of the government, just protect themselves, because it is a reality that when you have different ideas and add guns people assume you are the bad guy.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
    --Randolph J. Dworkin

    ďReading makes a full man, meditation a profound man, discourse a clear man.Ē
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    "It has been said that something as small as the flutter of a butterfly's wing can ultimately cause a typhoon halfway around the world"
    -- Chaos Theory

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