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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The ATF's first-ever encounter with Weaver was at an Aryan Nations rally. Just sayin'.

    Yeah, I have a low opinion of anyone who goes to an Aryan Nations rally too. I'm just asking when being an oddball and holding unpopular positions became a crime in America, let alone a capital offense.

    Sawing off a single shotgun 2 inches too short justifies killing someone's son and wife?
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    What's a maters theis?
    My final project for my Masters Degree, which I had to defend in front of a panel of my proffessers. Mywas in Communications and I chose Árisis communication as my specific purpose
    .The wholeprocess was fun and gruelling as real information is.sparcd. I am happy with it.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Oops, there it is...

    Seriously, Ruby Ridge? How many more decades are they going to cling to that as an excuse to have their own little armories?

    But the same gun folks will support Bush for invading Iraq based on a lie. We toppled a country based on a lie. And we tortured people. Those are war crimes.

    And they're still talking about poor Randy Weaver up in his cabin, minding his own business.... That's the same mentality that got OJ off... "Well, the LAPD planted evidence, so he was innocent." No. He murdered his wife and the LAPD stupidly tried to make the case stronger. Yes, AFT made mistakes, people were killed. But the Weavers reaped what they sowed and now the kids are millionaires.

    You stockpile guns and ammo, and commit a crime (illegally selling weapons), or plan to commit a crime, I hope the ATF takes you down. I have no sympathy for you. But the families that WERE minding their own business in Bagdad when we rained hellfire down on them... Killing truly innocent people. Feel sorry for them.
    Seriously? People dont need a single reason to have their own little armories. They have the right to do so.

    The BUsh invasion crapola is all a derail attempt and your addressing the Ruby Ridge incident is an attempt at regrabbing the narrative, keeping it simple instead of complicated means you can keep throwing around more gun control instead of addressing the missteps made by law enforcement officials.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    My final project for my Masters Degree, which I had to defend in front of a panel of my proffessers. Mywas in Communications and I chose Árisis communication as my specific purpose
    .The wholeprocess was fun and gruelling as real information is.sparcd. I am happy with it.
    ....hmmmmm....

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, I have a low opinion of anyone who goes to an Aryan Nations rally too. I'm just asking when being an oddball and holding unpopular positions became a crime in America, let alone a capital offense.

    Sawing off a single shotgun 2 inches too short justifies killing someone's son and wife?
    I don't disagree that the investigation was a cluster**** from day one. It's pretty obvious that they were trying to intimidate Weaver in order to turn him into an inside source, and when he refused, they retaliated against him. I'm not arguing that the ATF doesn't have dirty hands in all this. I'm just saying that the Weavers' hands weren't entirely clean, either.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Yeah, I'm not surprised you like something Mahler said.
    Why don't you comment on what he said and save the snarky remarks?

    Breitbart liked Maher enough to go on his regularly. Intelligent conversation doesn't have to feel like Kryptonite.

    I've known a good many homeschooled children. Oddly enough most of them came across as very intelligent and mature, and well-behaved, and grew up to be remakably successful adults.
    So have I. And the ones who get into college are really more privately tutored, than "home schooled" by parents. Meaning, their parents weren't their real teachers. Home schooling works when it's a group of parents pooling resources, and acknowledging their own limitations.

    Mahler was commenting on the notion that college is about exposure to new ideas, and how a lot of home schooling goes on for religious reasons--parents afraid their kids are going to be exposed to Darwin, critical thinking, and history. How about giving kids a choice? They are robbing their kids of the skills they need to live and succeed outside of their tiny little church community.

    The Weavers were an odd bunch sure... like the Branch Davidians.... but I can't lay my finger of that article of the Constitution where being "odd" was a capital offense in America....
    Agreed, lives were needless lost. But there's guilt on both sides. Everybody's hands were dirty. And the law of the land doesn't end with the constitution.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    My final project for my Masters Degree, which I had to defend in front of a panel of my proffessers. Mywas in Communications and I chose Árisis communication as my specific purpose
    .The wholeprocess was fun and gruelling as real information is.sparcd. I am happy with it.
    You're just ****ing with me now, right?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The ATF's first-ever encounter with Weaver was at an Aryan Nations rally. Just sayin'.
    Does this mean he was a brother? Does it mean he lost his civil rights? He and his family were separatists not supremacists, who Just wanted to be left alone.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Does this mean he was a brother? Does it mean he lost his civil rights? He and his family were separatists not supremacists, who Just wanted to be left alone.
    and they were bigots. just sayin'.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Seriously? People dont need a single reason to have their own little armories. They have the right to do so.
    But when they illegal start selling out of that little armory, we can take it away. Lock them in jail. And put their kids in foster homes. Buh-bye...

    Also, Re: "Reason" -- the government has the right to ask: "What'er all the guns for, Cowboy? And could you please show us the permits for each and every weapon in your house? Am I mistaken, or did you illegally modify that weapon?"

    All very reasonable questions. And if you don't have the right answers, then buh-bye.. Thank you for playing, your armory will destroyed, care to watch?

    The BUsh invasion crapola is all a derail attempt and your addressing the Ruby Ridge incident is an attempt at regrabbing the narrative, keeping it simple instead of complicated means you can keep throwing around more gun control instead of addressing the missteps made by law enforcement officials.
    I wasn't trying to derail, I was trying to put things in perspective. The far-right seems to suspicious of government at all the wrong times. Just my observation.

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