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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I AM a former law enforcement officer, and I just dropped in to tell you that LEO's can and do lie just like any other human being, when they think their ass is on the line. Having LE before your name is no guarantor of your ethics or honesty.
    And paranoid parents who stockpile weapons and home school their kids are also capable of lying... Having "Loving Parent" on your grave stone does not means your were an ethical/moral person.

    I like what Bill Maher said last night about home schooled kids -- When your parents are the smartest adults you know, you could be screwed.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And paranoid parents who stockpile weapons and home school their kids are also capable of lying... Having "Loving Parent" on your grave stone does not means your were an ethical/moral person.

    I like what Bill Maher said last night about home schooled kids -- When your parents are the smartest adults you know, you could be screwed.

    Yeah, I'm not surprised you like something Mahler said.

    I've known a good many homeschooled children. Oddly enough most of them came across as very intelligent and mature, and well-behaved, and grew up to be remakably successful adults.

    The Weavers were an odd bunch sure... like the Branch Davidians.... but I can't lay my finger of that article of the Constitution where being "odd" was a capital offense in America....

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    And paranoid parents who stockpile weapons and home school their kids are also capable of lying...
    What else did they lie about?

    'Coz the government was up to its ass in coverup and obstruction.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I AM a former law enforcement officer, and I just dropped in to tell you that LEO's can and do lie just like any other human being, when they think their ass is on the line. Having LE before your name is no guarantor of your ethics or honesty.
    Yep, I'm well aware of that. And as I'm sure you know, perps lie even more.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    She didn't reference a page.



    No, that's your strawman. My comments regarded a single point, and that single point alone.




    There's a whole 500+ page report on FBI/government CYA government misconduct in the prosecution and trial.

    What did the Weavers lie about?
    Maybe you should look at the report instead of fixating on Taxigirl's page reference? If you do you will see that there's a subtitled section that describes in detail what the conflicting claims were about the initial encounter.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The Weavers were an odd bunch sure... like the Branch Davidians.... but I can't lay my finger of that article of the Constitution where being "odd" was a capital offense in America....
    The ATF's first-ever encounter with Weaver was at an Aryan Nations rally. Just sayin'.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Did anyone notice that this topic is what I Did my Maters Theis on? I'm not saying you do not have knowledge about the event and subsequent acts by the DOJ, but that I am probably more qualified to present relevant and true information. The goal of my thesis was to address the bublimg of the fbi and At two events that destroyed their credibility.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The ATF's first-ever encounter with Weaver was at an Aryan Nations rally. Just sayin'.
    some folks here seem to think that makes Weaver a hero.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Did anyone notice that this topic is what I Did my Maters Theis on? I'm not saying you do not have knowledge about the event and subsequent acts by the DOJ, but that I am probably more qualified to present relevant and true information. The goal of my thesis was to address the bublimg of the fbi and At two events that destroyed their credibility.
    What's a maters theis?
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by taxigirl View Post
    Did anyone notice that this topic is what I Did my Maters Theis on? I'm not saying you do not have knowledge about the event and subsequent acts by the DOJ, but that I am probably more qualified to present relevant and true information. The goal of my thesis was to address the bublimg of the fbi and At two events that destroyed their credibility.
    Sorry for the typos.

    "You know, when they came and took away my fourth amendment I kept my yap shut, what the hell, I really didnít have anything to hide anyway. When they grabbed up my second amendment I sat still and bit my tongue because, truth be told, Iím allergic to guns. But here we are, you with your cold hard fingers wrapped around the neck of my first amendment and Iíve got to shout as loud as I can, because if I donít, before you know it, you wonít let me say nothing at all"
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