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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yeah, but who's gonna save us from the militias?
    If every community had its own militia, as was the norm, and the INTENT, then it's not an issue. It's the militia system (stretching back 1500 years) working properly.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Cole View Post
    Color me cynical. The OP (and associated articles) cite 1200 private militias and 2000 different "hate groups".


    Anybody have a link to the list that identifies all these different groups.....??
    Most of the "groups" are likely 5-20 local people with no real power at the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Personally, I'm not all that comfortable with armed groups rolling around like this. Especially when racism, homophobia, and religiously motivated bigotry is often a part of their agendas. I don't see how these groups are any different from gangs. Both groups support violence and exclusivity, and are armed with dangerous weapons. So yeah, I see these militias as gangs with different terminology. And they differ by their age and race, of course.
    Militias and gangs are very different.

    Militia (assuming you mean non-governmental) - A military force that engages in rebel activities.

    Gang - A group of criminals or hoodlums who band together for mutual protection and profit.

    Gang activities are rarely anit-government.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I keep telling you people that sooner rather than later there is going to be a Third American Revolution. The first one started with small town and regional militias under the Minuteman system (which had been in place for more than a century) and the Sons of Liberty. This is a more high tech and slightly more militant version of that same ideal.
    Some day there may be a third American Revolution. It might even be some day soon. But if you truly believe it will begin with a bunch of ignorant, racist idiots, then you are truly fooling yourself. Let's face it - these militia groups are not Conservatives or people who want to oppose the American government. They are just a large number of people opposed to the idea of an African American President. And racism toward a single man, even if he is President, by a group of traditionally racist Southerners will not spark a nationwide revolt.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Nice dodge. At best, it shows you're spouting off without really knowing anything about them.

    But by using "common threads," you still show that you suspect ALL of them.
    It was a direct answer to your question -- not a dodge.

    There is a big difference between keeping an eye out for potential problems and suspecting that everything you observe is up to no good.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    No, I don't want to indict everyone. I just want paramilitary organizations operating within our borders and openly proclaiming that they will make their own constitutional determinations and possibly react violently if they disagree with the government's interpretations ... to be under observation.
    I'm quite certain that King George III and his loyal supporters would have thought the same thing.

    It's funny how dissatisfaction with government can get one labeled one as a traitor, depending on one's point of view. When militia members are loyal to the constitutional principles on which this nation was founded, are they the ones who should be suspect? If "patriots" should be considered suspect, then this tells me just how far away from our beginnings we have strayed.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I asked you to "name them", you have failed.... Who has no evidence?
    LOL So, you going to ignore this:

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Remember a few years ago "the year of the shark" where the media reported ad nauseum every shark attack it could find, making the people think there was an epidemic?


    Yeah, shark attacks were actually down that year, it was a made up story.....


    Militia stories on the way up towards the november elections? made up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    If you think that these stories are made up, do you mind providing evidence?

    So, now you need to be dishonest it seems.
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm quite certain that King George III and his loyal supporters would have thought the same thing.

    It's funny how dissatisfaction with government can get one labeled one as a traitor, depending on one's point of view. When militia members are loyal to the constitutional principles on which this nation was founded, are they the ones who should be suspect? If "patriots" should be considered suspect, then this tells me just how far away from our beginnings we have strayed.
    Yeah, prior to January 20, 2009, dissent was often loudly trumpeted as "the highest form of patriotism."
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Militias, along with our air force, evilly overthrew the government of Libya and now the Syrian government is desperately trying to defend itself against evil militias within its own country.

    Militias are dangerous. Countries must have a strong totalitarian central governments free of challenge. It is totalitiarian governments, no armed people, that brought about civil rights. Everyone knows that.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah, prior to January 20, 2009, dissent was often loudly trumpeted as "the highest form of patriotism."
    Now disapproval of government proves you are a racist and a dangerous radical.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It was a direct answer to your question -- not a dodge.
    No, it was not. You didn't name any group which you thought wasn't worthy of suspicion, and you didn't say how many within the movement you thought weren't, so you didn't answer either question. All you said was "I haven't looked into it, but they all believe X suspicious thing."

    So, maybe in that respect, you did answer the question directly -- there aren't ANY not worthy of suspicion, and the percentage is 0. Thus, for you, the movement is 100% suspect.

    Why do you have such a problem simply saying so, "directly"?
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Now disapproval of government proves you are a racist and a dangerous radical.
    For many, yes.
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