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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    If they don't engage in violence so what? I don't believe in prior restraint. And if they want to rise up and rebel, that will solve the problem and allow us to rid the country of a bunch of left wing whackos who probably support the dem party anyway
    Interesting. So we really shouldn't be pursuing suspected terrorists at all. We should just wait for them to blow something up and then react to the devastation?
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

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    I seriously doubt that this has anything to do with making me feel better and more to do with the fact that I destroyed your argument.
    you doubt wrong.

    In fact, I was not trying to make someone like you feel better. If you are so inclined to believe a spokepersons word from such a group as total fact, then I feel sorry for you.

    It amazes me how quickly you objected to someone doubting the SPLC statement by jumping on the statement of they may have an agenda (hidden or otherewise). Some of what they say may be valid, some of it is suspect, (imo). Yet you provide no proof of to the SPLC claim other than their spokeperson said it.

    IMO the SPLC is a left wing biased group.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    How many militia men do you know?


    "he election of President Barack Obama in 2008 triggered an explosion in the number of militias and so-called patriot groups in the United States, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported in its annual tally of such anti-government organizations."


    Read it carefully, this liberal "think tank" has an agenda. Who are these "patriot groups" and what non biased observation would opine that in a report? This group like to attach "racism" to whatever it can. cheapening the real issue of racism.

    Name them.

    So in other words you have no evidence?
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Interesting. So we really shouldn't be pursuing suspected terrorists at all. We should just wait for them to blow something up and then react to the devastation?
    Remember, Terrorists are from foreign countries.

    If you blow up an abortion clinic, you're a Christian.

    Or if you murder women and children by bombing a building in Oklahoma City, you're a far-right Patriot watering the tree of Liberty.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Honestly, if these guys want to play militia or dooms day prepper, or candy land, or monopoly, or whatever.

    That is fine as long as they aren't bothering other people.

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    It is not just the SPLC

    Anti-government hate militias on the rise - CNN
    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...aoAs1COOOQxUJw
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    Militia Groups

    There are plenty of "lists" just google it.
    There are also "left-wing" groups that are being watched by the FBI (as well as right-wing). There are various kinds of domestic terrorism (eco, animal rights, civil rights etc..)

    When dems are in the white house we see a rise in right wing groups and the opposite is true for when the GOP is in the white house. There have been plenty of left wing groups in history that have made news. SDS, weather Underground, Black Panthers, MOVE, SLA etc...

    There are extremists on both sides of the spectrum. There is also activity that goes on that we do not hear about because the general public has lost interest and unless there is bloodshed, we do not hear about it. The FBI and ATF have gotten pretty good at tracking and putting a stop to things before they happen (which is kind of scary).

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Interesting. So we really shouldn't be pursuing suspected terrorists at all. We should just wait for them to blow something up and then react to the devastation?
    What, specifically, makes them "suspected terrorists"?
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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Honestly, if these guys want to play militia or dooms day prepper, or candy land, or monopoly, or whatever.

    That is fine as long as they aren't bothering other people.
    The problem is, they max out their credit cards buying up guns, then they have to sell off a few to pay the rent. That's how guns cross from grey to black market--unregulated "private" sales.


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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What, specifically, makes them "suspected terrorists"?
    Planning to blow something up?

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    Re: Explosive Growth of Militias

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What, specifically, makes them "suspected terrorists"?
    From what I've seen, their websites.
    "The necessaries of life occasion the great expense of the poor. They find it difficult to get food, and the greater part of their little revenue is spent in getting it. The luxuries and vanities of life occasion the principal expense of the rich, and a magnificent house embellishes and sets off to the best advantage all the other luxuries and vanities which they possess. ... It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion."

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