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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    I'm never going to get a vasectomy anyways, and if it makes the pro-life argument more legit, I say hell yes, vote for this bill.
    What does a vasectomy have to do with the pro-life movement?

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    I suspect the women in question were responding to all the legislation lately condifying into law precedures that are forced upon unwilling women seeking legal abortions. They figured if the state can control women's bodies and reproductive choices, they should control men's bodies and reproductive choices as well.

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And I say "Why not?". If women are not allowed to have contraception, then why should men have it. Let's ALL go back to the Middle Ages together, men and women alike. Let's ALL join in on the insanity that is sweeping the nation. Why should only women have all the fun?

    But, seriously, I think a great point is being made by these women.

    Article is here.
    See this is exactly why women shouldn't hold political office.

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    See this is exactly why women shouldn't hold political office.
    LOL - nevermind that men have waged that exact argument against women.

    When ANY form of birth control (diaphragm, condom, pill, sponge) was ILLEGAL just who do you think was in charge of making it illegal and then threw women in jail just because they didn't want to have kids once a year?


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    So much for men being able to make this country better.

    You need to can your sexist views and try to see things with a more open mind as to cause and effect. . . demonize women's need for birth control and our country reverst to more primitive times and gets flushed - with far reaching affects that will exceed your imagination in ways you likely couldn't imagine - and all would be negative.
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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    LOL - nevermind that men have waged that exact argument against women.

    When ANY form of birth control (diaphragm, condom, pill, sponge) was ILLEGAL just who do you think was in charge of making it illegal and then threw women in jail just because they didn't want to have kids once a year?


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    So much for men being able to make this country better.

    You need to can your sexist views and try to see things with a more open mind as to cause and effect. . . demonize women's need for birth control and our country reverst to more primitive times and gets flushed - with far reaching affects that will exceed your imagination in ways you likely couldn't imagine - and all would be negative.
    I'm not disagreeing with you exactly, but when did all this go on?

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    I'm not disagreeing with you exactly, but when did all this go on?
    It came and went in varying degrees throughout our history - 18th, 19th Century. Illegalizatoin of birth control was finally ended in the early 20th century - but not without a fight. Birth control movement in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    One of the most potent acts to limit birth control and the distribution of birth-control educational materials was the Comstock Act Comstock laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's pathetic that after ALL this time since it became legal to use and educate concerning birth control that so many people stil believe it shouldn't be permitted or it should continually be limited or made more and more difficult to obtain, afford or fill.
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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It came and went in varying degrees throughout our history - 18th, 19th Century. Illegalizatoin of birth control was finally ended in the early 20th century - but not without a fight. Birth control movement in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    One of the most potent acts to limit birth control and the distribution of birth-control educational materials was the Comstock Act Comstock laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's pathetic that after ALL this time since it became legal to use and educate concerning birth control that so many people stil believe it shouldn't be permitted or it should continually be limited or made more and more difficult to obtain, afford or fill.
    Ah, thanks.

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    What does a vasectomy have to do with the pro-life movement?
    ... O-****ing-P.

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I suspect the women in question were responding to all the legislation lately condifying into law precedures that are forced upon unwilling women seeking legal abortions. They figured if the state can control women's bodies and reproductive choices, they should control men's bodies and reproductive choices as well.
    yea, good luck with that, as if men ever had a choice.

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    Re: MO House bill would restrict vasectomies only to save lives

    This did make me curious as to vasectomy statistics: something I don't recall ever reading up on before. You know: why not! We might all learn something:

    vasectomy statistics

    As many as one in 100 vasectomies may fail to prevent pregnancy within five years of the procedure, a new study shows.

    Researchers say that the study shows that like other birth control methods, vasectomies are not always 100% effective.

    The study showed that six pregnancies were reported among 540 women within six weeks to 1.5 years after their husbands had a vasectomy.
    Vasectomy.com - Vasectomy and Reversal Information and Doctors
    Cost: $500 - $1,000 (goddamn - that's cheaper than a damn transmission swap)

    http://www.mamashealth.com/men/vas.asp:

    Approximately half a million vasectomies are performed in the United States each year.
    About one out of six men over age 35 has been vasectomized, the prevalence increasing along with education and income.
    Among married couples in this country, only female sterilization and oral contraception are relied upon more often for family planning.
    WOW - about 1 million are performed each year - had no idea.

    Vasectomy FAQ

    The satisfaction with the procedure is generally high. The chief causes of regret are:- The results of an ill-considered decision (often due to making the decision under pressure), Changes in circumstances some years later (such as the death of a child or remarriage), and "Post vasectomy pain syndrome" (PVP). It's worth adding that satisfaction rates are highest amongst men who were the ones who suggested vasectomy first. Our online survey has more on this.
    So - I gather from reading through all of these articles is that men aren't discouraged from having it by drs, etc . . . they're more worried about ejaculation, testosterone, semen changes and masculinity.
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