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    Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    "At the end of the day, it doesn't matter how much natural gas, or flex-fuel or electric vehicles you have if there's no place to charge them up or fill them up," Obama said.
    I honestly didn't know if he understood that with the way he pushes alternative fuels. Nice to see for a change. Not a big fan of the tax credits for any energy source, but making available places to get them makes sense.
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    Now is not the time to be putting out that kind of money. We don't have the vehicles to utilize this infrastructure. We should wait till they arrive and are affordable to the masses, which won't be for a long time.

    In the meantime, Obama should be concentrating on the effects of high gas prices on our citizens right now. I don't think he will, though.
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits


    CBO: Tax Preferences Are Generally an Inefficient Way to Reduce Environmental Costs of Producing and Consuming Energy

    What's a few billion more among friends.
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
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    I honestly didn't know if he understood that with the way he pushes alternative fuels. Nice to see for a change. Not a big fan of the tax credits for any energy source, but making available places to get them makes sense.
    seeing how we have trillions in debt there shouldn't be any tax credits regardless of the company.
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    What's the difference between a tax cut and a tax credit? I thought Conservatives liked those?
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Now is not the time to be putting out that kind of money. We don't have the vehicles to utilize this infrastructure. We should wait till they arrive and are affordable to the masses, which won't be for a long time.
    It's a chicken and egg problem. You want to wait for large-scale adoption before investing in infrastructure, but we won't see large-scale adoption until the infrastructure is put in place to support it.
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits | Environment | guardian.co.uk

    I honestly didn't know if he understood that with the way he pushes alternative fuels. Nice to see for a change. Not a big fan of the tax credits for any energy source, but making available places to get them makes sense.
    I take it this is for serving stations?

    In 2009, the government spent $2.3 billion on new vehicles for the U.S. government's fleet. Add another billion to that, and start shifting Washington DC to green cars. The stations to feed them will spring up paid for by the private sector. That'll get the ball rolling and serve a greater purpose. The government won

    That's when I'll think our government is really committed to this green technology.
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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    I just think the entire green jobs thing is aimless. Throw some money here then throw some money there. I just don't see it going anywhere. It is not productive. I love the idea of alternative energy sources but some things cannot be forced before their time. I know we need to experiment but let's get a more focused.

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    Re: Barack Obama pushes for $1bn green tax credits

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's a chicken and egg problem. You want to wait for large-scale adoption before investing in infrastructure, but we won't see large-scale adoption until the infrastructure is put in place to support it.
    Well, let's at least wait until we have a vehicle that the average consumer will buy, eh? Otherwise, that billion will be wasted.
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