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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Barry Goldwater was pretty much libertarian.
    I've have heard Goldwater called the Godfather of Conservatism. But conservatives today are nothing like him. When did the definitions change?

    I thought Goldwater was pretty spot on with most of his ideas. I said MOST.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I've have heard Goldwater called the Godfather of Conservatism. But conservatives today are nothing like him. When did the definitions change?

    I thought Goldwater was pretty spot on with most of his ideas. I said MOST.
    Whatever he was called, if you want to know what libertarian is, Goldwater was pretty much it.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I once had a person tell me, "What you are is a libertarian." That was many years ago. At the time, I was flattered.

    But more and more, people labeling themselves as libertarian these days, appear to me to be pretty extreme fringe rightwingers/conservatives.

    Please help me to understand the difference. I ask becuase I honestly do not know. Somebody school the good Cap'n here.
    Seems to me the definitions of libertarian, liberal, conservative vary widely. Usually based on the context of a given discussion and whether one is "assigning the label to someone else" or "claiming to be one yourself". And lastly, what day of the week it happens to be.


    My initial babblings aside, Bill Mayer's rants/insults do seem to focus heavily leftward and seldom to the right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I agree, he to me is a left-centrist. He is, by your evidence, no damn libertarian.
    Wolf Blitzer called Maher a liberal.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually I am right, and I am simply correcting a flaw in your reasoning. Maher describes himself as a libertarian or as a progressive. His views on issues would most closely be descried as libertarian. He is not a liberal.

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    Just sticking your fingers in your ears while shouting "he is a liberal" is not convincing.
    Maher is about as libertarian as you are "very liberal." He's basically a LINO.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Progressives favor social and economic and reform and change. A liberal tends to favor governmental solutions to national issues.



    You mean like favoring partial privatization of social security?
    You're splittling hairs. Read up on the history of the progressive movement.

    Social liberalism (i.e. contemporary liberalism) is very much in line with progressivism.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Wolf Blitzer called Maher a liberal.

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    He is a liberal..... he has some centrist views.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    As much as we all love to categorize people as us/them, black/white, liberal/conservative, Maher just doesn't fit neatly into one of those categories. I would say he is left of center, but his views are not down-the-line liberal.

    From Wikipedia:
    I don't view the legalization of marijuana, prostitution, and gambling as exclusively libertarian. From what little I have seen of Maher, he strikes me as a jerk more than anything else.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Wanna see a bunch of folks do an abrupt 180?...LOL...



    TAPPER: And that’s not comparable to what Limbaugh said about Sandra Fluke?

    MAHER: To compare that to Rush is ridiculous – he went after a
    civilian about very specific behavior, that was a lie, speaking for a
    party that has systematically gone after women’s rights all year, on
    the public airwaves. I used a rude word about a public figure who
    gives as good as she gets, who’s called people “terrorist” and
    “unAmerican.” Sarah Barracuda.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I've have heard Goldwater called the Godfather of Conservatism. But conservatives today are nothing like him. When did the definitions change?

    I thought Goldwater was pretty spot on with most of his ideas. I said MOST.
    Probably somewhere around the same time JFK's message got lost on liberals I reckon...

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