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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    "Hate to defend #RushLimbaugh but he apologized, liberals looking bad not accepting," Maher tweeted. "Also hate intimidation by sponsor pullout."
    Misogyny in the media is so common and Bill Maher is honest enough to come clean about left-wing media misogyny and he came to the defence of Rush Limbaugh who has been excessively penalized so far. Maher may fear that if this trend continues, even he could be banned from using those terms casually even if it's intended as satire and freedom of speech in the media can be threatened.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Waaay ahead of you, champ; I already said it was a legal standard which doesn't apply. This is about offense and outrage, not a slander case.

    It's got nothing to do with the law. There's no way you don't know that, so this is very, very weasely. Hoisted on your own petard, as it were.
    You seem very pushy about the way someone should feel about things. What gives you the right to say one person should be outraged by this and should be outraged by that?
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You seem very pushy about the way someone should feel about things. What gives you the right to say one person should be outraged by this and should be outraged by that?
    So you're not arguing that we should be outraged by what Rush said?

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Waaay ahead of you, champ; I already said it was a legal standard which doesn't apply. This is about offense and outrage, not a slander case.

    It's got nothing to do with the law. There's no way you don't know that, so this is very, very weasely. Hoisted on your own petard, as it were.
    Yeah, I didn't say it was a legal claim, but believe it or not, the legal standards aren't pulled out thin air. The same reasoning applies here. People who choose to become public figures have, or should have, a reasonable expectation that they will subjected to a lot of public comment -- good and bad. Private citizens ... not so much. That's why no one bats an eye when Limbaugh says the most horrible things imaginable about Obama, Pelosi, and other Democrats, almost every time he opens his mouth. Did anyone call his sponsors when he called Hillary the "Sexretary" of State? No. What about when he called NOW "whores to liberalism"? No. It comes with the territory if you're a public figure.

    Likewise, satire and comedy is not held to normal standards bause they are ... literally ... kidding.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Sarah Fluke would have a hard time arguing now, legally or otherwise, that she did not make herself a public figure.
    Last edited by X Factor; 03-09-12 at 02:28 AM.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So you're not arguing that we should be outraged by what Rush said?
    I don't think I ever said that. I'm not even "outraged". I have pretty thick skin when it comes to what people say. I just think it was a dick move.

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sarah Fluke would have a hard time arguing now, legally or otherwise, that she did not make herself a public figure.
    That's unfortunate if that's the case.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Yeah, I didn't say it was a legal claim, but believe it or not, the legal standards aren't pulled out thin air. The same reasoning applies here. People who choose to become public figures have, or should have, a reasonable expectation that they will subjected to a lot of public comment -- good and bad. Private citizens ... not so much. That's why no one bats an eye when Limbaugh says the most horrible things imaginable about Obama, Pelosi, and other Democrats, almost every time he opens his mouth. Did anyone call his sponsors when he called Hillary the "Sexretary" of State? No. What about when he called NOW "whores to liberalism"? No. It comes with the territory if you're a public figure.

    Likewise, satire and comedy is not held to normal standards bause they are ... literally ... kidding.
    Just as SCOTUS agrees...


    In Hustler Magazine Inc. v. Falwell, 485 U.S. 46 (1988), the United States Supreme Court held, in a unanimous 80 decision (Justice Anthony Kennedy took no part in the consideration or decision of the case), that the First Amendment's free-speech guarantee prohibits awarding damages to public figures to compensate for emotional distress intentionally inflicted upon them.

    Thus, Hustler magazine's parody of Jerry Falwell was deemed to be within the law
    , because the Court found that reasonable people would not have interpreted the parody to contain factual claims, leading to a reversal of the jury verdict in favor of Falwell, who had previously been awarded $150,000 in damages by a lower court.
    Hustler Magazine v. Falwell | The Oyez Project at IIT Chicago-Kent College of Law
    Last edited by barbarian_style; 03-09-12 at 02:43 AM.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Sarah Fluke would have a hard time arguing now, legally or otherwise, that she did not make herself a public figure.
    Yes, because we would all know her name and what she looks like from this informal testimony.

    Rush had nothing to do with her becoming a common name with people who pay attention to politics.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ummmm...Bill Maher isn't a liberal. Hate to rain on your parade, but your comments would be like saying that Ed Schultz speaks for all conservatives.
    Well he's sure not a "libertarian" - lmao

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by SLAMRAAM View Post
    Well he's sure not a "libertarian" - lmao
    Maher is closer to being a libertarian than a liberal. He's probably best be classified (in DP-Speak) as "Libertarian - Left".
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