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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    I thought we just showed you a few of them that occurred in the past without repercussion or huge fuss from the media. What else do you want?
    I figured out why your screen name is what it is -- because not one of your posts can possibly be serious. Oy.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Which of those two things is untrue?
    The fact that he uses it as he uses it infers that some will see it as an insult. Ignoring that willfully seems dishonest.

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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Yes, I know the story of the parody.

    It's weird how people got angry about the parody and not the actual statement by the LA Times dude. Weird, huh?


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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Actually that was the LA Times reporter ...
    I think the subtlety of it may be a bit beyond his grasp.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

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    Hmmm. I asked earlier in the thread -- if it's OK to say horrible misogynist things about Sarah Palin because she's a public figure, is it OK to say horrible racist things about Barack Obama, because he is, too?

    Your answer, if you wish to remain intellectually consistent, must be "yes."

    (Not that this "public figure" excuse isn't a whole bunch of hooey anyway. It's trying to apply a legal standard to something where it just doesn't matter.)
    Okay or not okay is a bit black and white, don't you think? If it's satire involving a public figure, then most anything goes. Is it "okay"? If it's not intended as satire, and it's against a public figure, then it is offensive and thus not okay, but it comes with the territory of being a public figure. If it's not intended as satire and it's directed against a private citizen, then it is deplorable.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I figured out why your screen name is what it is -- because not one of your posts can possibly be serious. Oy.
    So far, you haven't made one valid point. No one even knows what the **** you are doing on this thread or what you are bitching about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Yes, I know the story of the parody.

    It's weird how people got angry about the parody and not the actual statement by the LA Times dude. Weird, huh?
    It didn't get all the much press and not many got angry about it. Rush even said it was really only covered by one local news station.



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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Okay or not okay is a bit black and white, don't you think? If it's satire involving a public figure, then most anything goes. Is it "okay"? If it's not intended as satire, and it's against a public figure, then it is offensive and thus not okay, but it comes with the territory of being a public figure. If it's not intended as satire and it's directed against a private citizen, then it is deplorable.
    Hey, YOU are the one who thinks "Sarah Palin is a public figure!!!" somehow makes a difference when she gets called [that word I find so vile I won't even type it].

    So, if someone calls Barack Obama something equally horrible in terms of race, then it MUST make a difference that he's a public figure, and apparently isn't "deplorable."

    This is the standard YOU set. (Still think "public figure" is such an irrefutable point that no one will answer it?)
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So far, you haven't made one valid point. No one even knows what the **** you are doing on this thread or what you are bitching about.
    Well . . . I get that you don't.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Hey, YOU are the one who thinks "Sarah Palin is a public figure!!!" somehow makes a difference when she gets called [that word I find so vile I won't even type it].

    So, if someone calls Barack Obama something equally horrible in terms of race, then it MUST make a difference that he's a public figure, and apparently isn't "deplorable."

    This is the standard YOU set. (Still think "public figure" is such an irrefutable point that no one will answer it?)
    Actually it's not just me who thinks that there's a different standard for public figures. The Supreme Court also makes that distinction, having established a much stricter standard to prove slander against public figures as opposed to private individuals. Further, satire is a well recognized exception to the laws against defamation and slander. As I understand it, Maher made his comment about Palin IN A STAND-UP COMEDY ROUTINE. In contrast, Limbaugh says offensive things about Obama every single day on a show that purports to be political commentary.
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    Re: Bill Maher defends Rush Limbaugh for 'slut' apology

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Actually it's not just me who thinks that there's a different standard for public figures. The Supreme Court also makes that distinction, having established a much stricter standard to prove slander against public figures as opposed to private individuals.
    Waaay ahead of you, champ; I already said it was a legal standard which doesn't apply. This is about offense and outrage, not a slander case.


    Further, satire is a well recognized exception to the laws against defamation and slander. As I understand it, Maher made his comment about Palin IN A STAND-UP COMEDY ROUTINE. In contrast, Limbaugh says offensive things about Obama every single day on a show that purports to be political commentary.
    It's got nothing to do with the law. There's no way you don't know that, so this is very, very weasely. Hoisted on your own petard, as it were.
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