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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    the article I read didn't have anything to do with those that served time. It is about those serving time.
    You sure you read it?

    The plaintiffs said more than 85,000 offenders who are no longer in state prison or on parole should be allowed to vote in the June primary election.
    The Sentencing Project, which acts as a nationwide clearinghouse on the issue, estimates that 5.3 million citizens nationwide have temporarily or permanently lost their right to vote because of a felony conviction. That number includes 1.4 million black males, or 13 percent of all black men, a rate seven times than the national average.
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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You sure you read it?



    i read it, and understood it.

    claiming that tens of thousands of criminals being shifted to county jails and community supervision

    they are moved from state prisons. They are not free, they are still serving time.

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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    i read it, and understood it.

    claiming that tens of thousands of criminals being shifted to county jails and community supervision

    they are moved from state prisons. They are not free, they are still serving time.
    Okay - I will underline it for you again:

    The Sentencing Project, which acts as a nationwide clearinghouse on the issue, estimates that 5.3 million citizens nationwide have temporarily or permanently lost their right to vote because of a felony conviction. That number includes 1.4 million black males, or 13 percent of all black men, a rate seven times than the national average.
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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Okay - I will underline it for you again:
    that has nothing to do with your initial claim that they served their time.

    a person that serves their time isn't being transferred to county jail. Some percentage of 85k people are suing to gain the right to vote, but are still in jail. Another percent of 85k is required to undergo supervision (we call them half-way houses). They are still serving time for the punishment they received.

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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Meh, for that matter I don't even really have a problem with allowing incarcerated felons to vote. They have more government involvement in their lives than just about anyone else, so they certainly have a stake in who gets elected.
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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Meh, for that matter I don't even really have a problem with allowing incarcerated felons to vote. They have more government involvement in their lives than just about anyone else, so they certainly have a stake in who gets elected.
    I don't really care either. we have millions of uneducated voters, why not felons too.

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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Only in La La land......wonder if DD had a hand in this?


    Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote - Yahoo! News
    I believe all individuals who have completed their punishment phase and successfully completed their probation should have the full of their rights recognized once again; including the ability to vote.
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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Only in La La land......wonder if DD had a hand in this?


    Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote - Yahoo! News
    If they served their time behind bars then there is no valid reason they should be denied their constitutional rights.
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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    Quote Originally Posted by beerftw View Post
    however while in prison voting is part of their rights,and part of their punishment is they lose their rights until complete their time!
    Let's discourage prisoners from being connected, informed and involved politically? How does that serve society?

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    Re: Case would let thousands of Calif. criminals vote

    I see no problem with denying felons the right to vote. They became felons because they infringed or took away other peoples rights, that is the basis for something being a crime, or at least should be. The potential loss of certain rights when convicted should help deter people from committing crimes in the first place. But then again, so many Americans who have the right to vote don't exercise it, so does it really deter anything?

    The biggest effect I can see from letting prisoners/convicted felons vote is they would probably tend to vote for candidates who are weak on crime and who want to spend lots of taxpayer money on luxuries for prisoners instead of more prisons and guards, aka liberals.

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