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    Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

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    CLEVELAND Dennis Kucinich, a colorful liberal in Congress who tried to have former President George W. Bush impeached over the Iraq war, was defeated by a fellow Democratic incumbent on Tuesday in the first of 11 primary races this year pitting members of the U.S. House against each other.
    Kucinich, 65, lost to Marcy Kaptur, the longest serving woman in Congress, who touted her influence as a senior member of the powerful committee that decides on government spending.
    In November, Kaptur will face the winner of the Republican primary -- Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher, better known as "Joe the Plumber." He gained national attention in the 2008 presidential race by pressing then-candidate Barack Obama on tax policy.
    Kaptur and Kucinich, once friends representing neighboring northern Ohio districts, found themselves competing for the same job when Ohio lost two Congressional seats after the 2010 U.S. Census.
    The reshuffling of Ohio voting boundaries by the Republican-dominated state legislature created an oddly-shaped district that stretches along the Lake Erie shore from Toledo to just east of Cleveland, forcing a primary race between the two.
    While most attention focused on the Super Tuesday Republican presidential primaries, Ohio also held primary elections for a U.S.Senate seat, all of its members of Congress and local posts.
    In the primary on Tuesday, Kaptur won nearly all the vote from her home area of Toledo, and Kucinich was unable to close the gap with votes in his Cleveland base.
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    Dennis Kucinich, just a short 3 1/2 years ago who ran in the Democratic Primary for President of the United States. While certainly a sometimes inflammatory character in Congress, some in the media are lamenting over his primary loss to Kaptur in Ohio's 9th district. Given that the Democrats completed the redistricting and possibly knew that such a move would make a primary battle for Kucinich tougher than in the past, one wonders if the Dennis had done something or perhaps did not do enough after 16 years in Congress to warrant a primary win. I just came back from Cleveland OH and though I didn't meet an excessive amount of people there, those who I did speak to did not seem like the average Kucinich supporter. While redistricting may have had a hand in his failed primary bid another hand may be that his progressive style became a bit tired.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio - Business - msnbc.com


    Dennis Kucinich, just a short 3 1/2 years ago who ran in the Democratic Primary for President of the United States. While certainly a sometimes inflammatory character in Congress, some in the media are lamenting over his primary loss to Kaptur in Ohio's 9th district. Given that the Democrats completed the redistricting and possibly knew that such a move would make a primary battle for Kucinich tougher than in the past, one wonders if the Dennis had done something or perhaps did not do enough after 16 years in Congress to warrant a primary win. I just came back from Cleveland OH and though I didn't meet an excessive amount of people there, those who I did speak to did not seem like the average Kucinich supporter. While redistricting may have had a hand in his failed primary bid another hand may be that his progressive style became a bit tired.
    It didn't have much to do with ideology; both Kucinich and Kaptur are very liberal Democrats. It was just the redistricting. If the congressional districts were the same as last time around, both Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptur would've easily retained their seats. Look at the map; the new Kaptur/Kucinich district (#9, running across Lake Erie) was obviously created explicitly to force them into a primary battle and get rid of one of them.

    This is exactly why we should have a computer program re-draw the congressional districts every 10 years, instead of letting congresspeople do it themselves. This kind of crap is not healthy for our democracy.

    http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-c...1315958341.pdf
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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    the Democrat Party is set up to take a dive

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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    the Democrat Party is set up to take a dive

    Dennis has been called back to the home world. That explains it.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Kane View Post
    the Democrat Party is set up to take a dive
    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Dennis has been called back to the home world. That explains it.
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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Kucinich is a prime example of a too-liberal Democrat. While I applaud him for his stand on Iraq and a few other ideas, that dude was too far off on a lot of issues. Banning handguns? Anti-factory farming? Seriously?

    No big loss for the Left.

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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It didn't have much to do with ideology; both Kucinich and Kaptur are very liberal Democrats. It was just the redistricting. If the congressional districts were the same as last time around, both Dennis Kucinich and Marcy Kaptur would've easily retained their seats. Look at the map; the new Kaptur/Kucinich district (#9, running across Lake Erie) was obviously created explicitly to force them into a primary battle and get rid of one of them.

    This is exactly why we should have a computer program re-draw the congressional districts every 10 years, instead of letting congresspeople do it themselves. This kind of crap is not healthy for our democracy.

    http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-c...1315958341.pdf
    Exactly. Marcie Kaptur (Toledo) has represented the 9th district for decades. But Kucinich's 10th district (Cleveland) was basically consolidated with the old 9th district after the Republicans swept the House and took the Governorship of Ohio in 2010. So now, both Toledo and Cleveland are in the same congressional district. And Kucinich is well known for bankrupting Cleveland when he was Mayor many years ago.

    So now it is going to be Joe the Plumber vs. Marcy in Ohio's 9th. Unless of course, Kucinich decides to run 3rd party.
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    I didnt agree with Kucinich on much, but he was honest, believed what he believed, and was more of a liberal loner than a fierce partisan. Kaptur is just a partisan hack. The congress, as hard as this is to believe, just got worse in my opinion.

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    Re: Liberal Congressman Kucinich defeated in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I didnt agree with Kucinich on much, but he was honest, believed what he believed, and was more of a liberal loner than a fierce partisan. Kaptur is just a partisan hack. The congress, as hard as this is to believe, just got worse in my opinion.

    Reminds me of Santorum...honestly insane.

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