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Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

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U.S. News - Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

A Texas school district has apologized for what some perceived as a racist chant from fans after one of its teams beat a rival in a high school basketball playoff game.

Alamo Heights High School, which is made up mostly of white students, beat Edison High, which is predominantly Hispanic, in the Region IV-4A championship in San Antonio on Saturday. As Alamo players celebrated the win on the court, a large group of students began cheering “USA! USA!”

Alamo Heights head coach Andrew Brewer silenced the students as soon as he heard them, according to the San Antonio Express-News.




Alamo Heights Superintendent Kevin Brown said he has apologized to San Antonio Independent School District officials. As punishment, Alamo Heights students who were involved in the chanting will not be allowed to attend the team’s remaining state title games.

The San Antonio district on Tuesday also filed a complaint with the University Interscholastic League, the governing body of high school sports in the area.

Hmmm, I didn't know that the USA consisted of white people only.

What really burns my blood is that you can not possibly imagine the stuff my daughter has heard playing basketball and running in track meets at predominantly black schools, but MSNBC wouldn't be the least bit interested in a story like that.

Double standards run amuck.
 
I'm going to make an educated guess and say that they were shouting "USA" rather than the name of their high school (which is what people normally chant) because they made the assumption that the Hispanic students were not American. I'm also going to make the assumption that people who chant at games consider the subject of their chant superior to the other group.

With those two educated assumptions, I'm going to conclude that the chant is, indeed, prejudiced and/or racist.

As for double standards, from your take on the story involving your daughter, it seems that you seem quite horrified about the (apparent) racist things said at those games. However, you've brushed off this story without a thought. That's a double standard as well.
 
gotta love it
almost as good at goading as the dukies when carolina arrives to play roundball

The San Antonio district on Tuesday also filed a complaint with the University Interscholastic League, the governing body of high school sports in the area.
would love to read the complaint: students chanted USA USA at basketball game

such a horrible act [/s]
 
Yeah but why would you chant USA if both teams are from the USA? I don't get it.
 
Well, it's obvious, isn't it? You chant USA at the other school because you don't believe their students are 'Real Americans'. It's the standard Republican response to hispanics. Post like the OP are also pretty standard in response to incidents like this.
 
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First of all, "Hispanic" isn't a race.
 
gotta love it
almost as good at goading as the dukies when carolina arrives to play roundball


would love to read the complaint: students chanted USA USA at basketball game

such a horrible act [/s]

You know what this is about, don't you? But sometimes it serves a purpose to play the victim, just not understanding how anybody could be possibly offended by something this benign.

You guys continue to crack me up.
 
First of all, "Hispanic" isn't a race.

So what?

We all know why they were chanting USA - even the racists.
 
So what?

We all know why they were chanting USA - even the racists.

"Hispanic" isn't a race, therefore, it cannot possibly be racist to say "USA, USA" during a game involving Hispanic students.
 
"Hispanic" isn't a race, therefore, it cannot possibly be racist to say "USA, USA" during a game involving Hispanic students.

LOL you're funny. They form an ethnicity made up of different races... so yeah, you can be racist towards them.

Quit falling for others people's bull**** and use your head.
 
First of all, "Hispanic" isn't a race.

15-II WHAT IS "RACE" DISCRIMINATION?

Title VII prohibits employer actions that discriminate, by motivation or impact, against persons because of race. Title VII does not contain a definition of “race,” nor has the Commission adopted one. For the collection of federal data on race and ethnicity, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) has provided the following five racial categories: American Indian or Alaska Native; Asian; Black or African American; Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander; and White; and one ethnicity category, Hispanic or Latino.(12) OMB has made clear that these categories are “social-political constructs . . . and should not be interpreted as being genetic, biological, or anthropological in nature.”(13)
[emphasis added by bubba for the reading impaired]
Compliance Manual Section 15: Race and Color Discrimination
 
Were the Hispanics who were chanting USA racists?
 
You know what this is about, don't you? But sometimes it serves a purpose to play the victim, just not understanding how anybody could be possibly offended by something this benign.

You guys continue to crack me up.

that kind of lemming-think is what cracks me up
but then i also appreciate good smack expressed on the ball field or playing court
 
Well then the other team should have joined in the chant, too.

I think this thing is being blown way out of proportion - it was a bit inapropriate considering that they're all Americans but :shrug: Beyond that I'm not going to get my panties a twist over what some highschoolers DO.
 
Well then the other team should have joined in the chant, too.

I think this thing is being blown way out of proportion - it was a bit inapropriate considering that they're all Americans but :shrug: Beyond that I'm not going to get my panties a twist over what some highschoolers DO.
you wear panties?
 
LOL you're funny. They form an ethnicity made up of different races... so yeah, you can be racist towards them.

Quit falling for others people's bull**** and use your head.

[emphasis added by bubba for the reading impaired]
Compliance Manual Section 15: Race and Color Discrimination

Please don't be hasty, my friends.

Definitions in the United States
The term Hispanic, as dominated by the Office of Management and Budget, is used in the United States for people with origins in Spanish-speaking countries, like Mexico, Costa Rica. Hispanic is not a race, as the Chilean Nobel Prize Gabriela Mistral once said, "mi patria es mi lengua" (My fatherland is my language). Latino, from American Spanish, is used in some cases as an abbreviation for latino americano or "Latin American" and tends to be used interchangeably with Hispanic in the United States, despite the fact these two words are not synonyms. The term "Latin America" was used for the first time in 1861/1867, when the French occupied Mexico and wanted to be included in what has been known until then as "América Española" or "Spanish America". [30]


"The terms "Hispanic" or "Latino" refer to persons who trace their origin or descent to Mexico, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Spanish speaking Central and South America countries, and other Spanish cultures. Origin can be considered as the heritage, nationality group, lineage, or country of the person or the person's parents or ancestors before their arrival in the United States. People who identify their origin as Hispanic or Latino may be of any race."[32]
The U.S. Office of Management and Budget currently defines "Hispanic or Latino" as "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race".[33] This definition excludes people of Portuguese origins, such as Portuguese Americans or Brazilian Americans. However, they are included in some government agencies' definitions. For example, the U.S. Department of Transportation defines Hispanic to include, "persons of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Dominican, Central or South American, or others Spanish or Portuguese culture or origin, regardless of race."

Hispanic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hispanicization

Hispanicization is the process by which a place or a person absorbs characteristics of Hispanic society and culture.[38][39][40] Modern hispanization of a place, namely in the United States, might be illustrated by Spanish-language media and businesses.

Hispanic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Being Hispanic/Latino is a culture, not a race. Knowing this, how can I be "reading-impaired," or "falling for other people's bull****?"
 
Yes. Correct. It's an ethnicity. Your point being that... what?

My point being that since being Hispanic isn't a race, the people chanting "USA" during a game involving Hispanics cannot in itself be racist.
 
This is what happens in a world where "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" doesn't exist.
 
Make no mistake...there IS a double standard on what is reported and what makes national news in this country.

"Police are investigating a possible race hate attack after a 13-year-old boy was doused in gasoline and set on fire.
The teenager, who suffered first degree burns to his face and hands, is white and his two attackers black.
his mother Melissa Coon said the attackers told her son ‘This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy’."
‘You get what you deserve, white boy’: doused in gasoline and set alight in racially-motivated attack in Kansas City | Education News

Roles reversed...and this would be the lead story on every network news broadcast in the country.
 
Wake's insistence on using a very specific definition of the term "racist" notwithstanding, TPD is correct. It was aimed at being offensive, attacking the other team's ethnicity.

Oh, and whether this or an opposite situation was reported or not is irrelevant to the issue.
 
Make no mistake...there IS a double standard on what is reported and what makes national news in this country.

"Police are investigating a possible race hate attack after a 13-year-old boy was doused in gasoline and set on fire.
The teenager, who suffered first degree burns to his face and hands, is white and his two attackers black.
his mother Melissa Coon said the attackers told her son ‘This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy’."
‘You get what you deserve, white boy’: doused in gasoline and set alight in racially-motivated attack in Kansas City | Education News

Roles reversed...and this would be the lead story on every network news broadcast in the country.

And what makes your point so sad is that it's true.
 
Wake's insistence on using a very specific definition of the term "racist" notwithstanding, TPD is correct. It was aimed at being offensive, attacking the other team's ethnicity.

I am not wrong. There was no racism, because Hispanic is a culture.

I will grant there may have been an element of bigotry involved in doing this, but not racism; we must be fair.
 
Wake's insistence on using a very specific definition of the term "racist" notwithstanding, TPD is correct. It was aimed at being offensive, attacking the other team's ethnicity.

Oh, and whether this or an opposite situation was reported or not is irrelevant to the issue.

Have to split hairs on this.
Racist is a specific term, else it loses all meaning.

Simply saying the kids chanting USA, to hurt Hispanic students was rude, would be a better choice of words.
 
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