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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    The "Alamo Whites" chant did occur and the "USA" chant was started in reply to it.
    Two wrongs in WHATEVER order still don't make either of those instances into something that would no longer be reasonably read as racism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    The "USA" chant was NOT heard at every game this year. This was something a student claimed but upon investigation it turned out not to be true. It never happened. The coach of the Alamo Heights team immediately quashed the USA chant because he recognized it was offensive.
    The coach gets it. As for repeated or not, it's completely irrelevant. The context of even a single instance of a "USA" chant makes it perfectly reasonable for observers to interpret such as an implication that the other team is being suggested (by the chanters) to be less- or non-American.

    Everything else is irrelevance and obfuscation.
    I've moved on to a better forum (scienceforums.net). Facts matter, and I don't have the time or energy for putting up with the pretense that they don't. PM me if you'd like me to get in touch with you when I'm done developing my own forum system, likely towards the end of 2013.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    I apologize for not bothering to read your last post, but the whole take no responsibility meme is already debunked. Not that you would have noticed, as that had something to do with the topic of the thread. Then there is the whole series of post between us where I acknowledged getting some things you said wrong. I even crowned you as I promised I would. Then there is the problem with the fact that tonight I posted *new* admittedly anecdotal information about facts that I had gotten wrong. Don't let the fact that I did all of this in plain sight on a public message board get in the way of your hackish meme though. So at the end of the day, I thank you for withdrawing your claim that I had been personally attacking you ad hom and changing your claim to who started "it". Might even call it something cute, like the Little Rascals Debate. Who started "IT"! You did, no you did. Wait, why are you changing your claim/stance/story? Uhm, never mind?
    Now, not only are you not taking responsibility for your behavior, but you are being dishonest too. Nothing you said above has any basis in reality, nor did I claim any of it. Shame. Now we know that you can't take responsibility for your behavior AND you are dishonest. I wonder what else we will learn about you.
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    As you can see by the Captain's recent reluctant posting of the so called examples of me personally attacking him ad hominem, the charge got somewhat watered down once he did a little back tracking and reading. Then it got just feeble when he posted his "proof". Now here you are asking him to quote where you did as he says you did? This should be amusing. Speaking of context, whenever I see a poster on an internet message board trying to psychoanalyze other posters? Sharing with others their keen insights like, you don't accept responsibility for your actions? Based upon an argument or dust up about a political topic on an internet message board? I know we are dealing with a nincompoop that has lost touch with context completely. Which is why I guess these types are always the ones crowing about context. Yip that is the internet for you.
    Poor Gie. Still upset that I called you out, proved you wrong (with quotes of yours) and demonstrated both your lack of ability to take responsibility and your dishonesty. You can whine all you want. Doesn't change your behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Where? And remember oh ruler of all context...Let's be sure to include all of my context.


    j-mac
    Here you go:

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    How ashamed of being American does one have to be to think that a chant of "USA" is a bad thing? Sad dude, real sad.


    j-mac
    And it wasn't until post #341 that you actually indicated that you DID understand context... which I acknowledged in post #342.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Poor Gie. Still upset that I called you out, proved you wrong (with quotes of yours) and demonstrated both your lack of ability to take responsibility and your dishonesty. You can whine all you want. Doesn't change your behavior.
    It's like some internet nincompoop keeps playing the same broken scratched up record over and over again, telling everyone it is Pavarotti. Only it sounds like Yankovic.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    It's like some internet nincompoop keeps playing the same broken scratched up record over and over again, telling everyone it is Pavarotti. Only it sounds like Yankovic.
    Sounds like someone STILL can't take responsibility for their behavior and not be dishonest. That's OK. It's amusing watching your avoidance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Sounds like someone STILL can't take responsibility for their behavior and not be dishonest. That's OK. It's amusing watching your avoidance.
    Translation: Sounds like someone who has already acknowledged the error he made about a minor point of contention, and pointed it out more than once, STILL won't say what a you really really *need* me to say to feed your ego. Oh well.

    Apparently I'm supposed to be super upset and all worked up about this idiotic insistence of yours that I won't, what was it? Take "responsibility for my actions" and admit that my behavior is what? Dishonest? Proving again that a lot of nincompoops on the internet lose all sense of context. Some of them start pontificating about absurd little theories about other posters based upon a minor point of contention. Clearly the only thing left to do in this thread is watch you prove this over and over again.

    Your ego might crave and need my agreement with your idiotic "argument" but it ain't gonna get it. Yes of course it is a given that this means I won't accept blah blah and it makes me blah blah. OK, man I hope I can recover and manage to put back together the pieces of my now shattered life and psyche. Ah well tomorrow is another day, just one I won't be wasting on yet more space space cadet nincompoopery.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Translation: Sounds like someone who has already acknowledged the error he made about a minor point of contention, and pointed it out more than once, STILL won't say what a you really really *need* me to say to feed your ego. Oh well.

    Apparently I'm supposed to be super upset and all worked up about this idiotic insistence of yours that I won't, what was it? Take "responsibility for my actions" and admit that my behavior is what? Dishonest? Proving again that a lot of nincompoops on the internet lose all sense of context. Some of them start pontificating about absurd little theories about other posters based upon a minor point of contention. Clearly the only thing left to do in this thread is watch you prove this over and over again.

    Your ego might crave and need my agreement with your idiotic "argument" but it ain't gonna get it. Yes of course it is a given that this means I won't accept blah blah and it makes me blah blah. OK, man I hope I can recover and manage to put back together the pieces of my now shattered life and psyche. Ah well tomorrow is another day, just one I won't be wasting on yet more space space cadet nincompoopery.
    Still dancing, eh, Gie? I know, it's tough when you shown to be dishonest and not take responsibility in front of everyone. I know you must put on a front in order to save face. Don't worry. We won't hold this lapse against you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    The "USA USA USA" chant is a white-identity chant. Seriously, you guys didn't figure this out yet?

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