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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

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    Can't even take responsibility to do your own books. Figures.




    Poor Gie. I suppose it might be a good idea next time to not start using the ad homs. Then you won't have to get so upset when they get thrown back at you. Here's a pro-tip: If you don't like it, don't do it yourself. You might fare a little better, next time. Of course, it WOULD mean you would have to take some responsibility for things.
    Nah. What is the point in using ad homs in an argument about what a handful of tweens did for 5 seconds? I'm just not that convinced the investment in the issue leads to much that is worth while. Though I congratulate you, clearly you have found my Achilles heal. You making an ass of yourself.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Poor Gie. I suppose it might be a good idea next time to not start using the ad homs. Then you won't have to get so upset when they get thrown back at you. Here's a pro-tip: If you don't like it, don't do it yourself. You might fare a little better, next time. Of course, it WOULD mean you would have to take some responsibility for things.
    I missed where you had IMO paid lip service to both chants being offensive. You missed me saying I found both chants offensive in this situation. But speaking of missing, I seem to have missed where I "started" using the ad homs and got "upset" when you started throwing them back at me. I suspect that this is because you "started" using the ad homs and throwing them at me, not vice versa. So in addition to you being the source of the ad hom personal attacks, we now have you lecturing about what? Responsibility? Yeah I know. It looks completely idiotic, but maybe you were just tired at the time. Or drunk.
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    It's already established that there was no racism, seeing that the one team chanted "USA!" in all prior games.

    Is this pretty much wrapped up, or should this dead horse continue to be beaten?

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

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    It's already established that there was no racism, seeing that the one team chanted "USA!" in all prior games.

    Is this pretty much wrapped up, or should this dead horse continue to be beaten?
    Umm...who "established" that? And what does repetition have to do with anything? I didn't realize that things stopped being racist if they were said more than once.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

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    Umm...who "established" that? And what does repetition have to do with anything? I didn't realize that things stopped being racist if they were said more than once.
    How is chanting "USA!" racist if said team has been chanting it against every team they've gone to. Factor in that the teams they've faced were of different backgrounds.

    And more to the point, how is chanting "USA!" even racist? I guess "USA" is a racial slur now?

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    How is chanting "USA!" racist if said team has been chanting it against every team they've gone to. Factor in that the teams they've faced were of different backgrounds.
    Of course it is not racist. The actual allegation that the chant was racist originated with the reporter who filed the story. Posters around here ran with that, largely without giving the matter much thought and even less attention to the reporting of the incident. As of this moment, no other reporter in the country has bothered approaching the story in a journalistic manner. Most of the media in the country picked up the story and ran with it and the so called racism slant as well. It is actually a pretty damning indictment on the state of journalistic ethics in America these days.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    And more to the point, how is chanting "USA!" even racist? I guess "USA" is a racial slur now?
    I would not be surprised to see some serious contortions and somersaults and a bit of serious stretching too, all in order to show how chanting USA is racist and bad bad bad. In fact there is already a lot of that in this thread.

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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    I would not call it racist, bigoted? Yes.

    What they were doing was calculated and wrong. Chanting USA in a high school came because you beat a mostly Latino team is questionable at best. The motives can't be good. This was pretty disgraceful.
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    What they were doing was calculated and wrong. Chanting USA in a high school came because you beat a mostly Latino team is questionable at best. The motives can't be good. This was pretty disgraceful.
    Actually what they were doing was replying to the equally bigoted "Alamo Whites" chant that the losing teams side of the stands started upon losing the game. They were both wrong. As I stated earlier, I'm more concerned about what if anything, parents on both sides of the situation are doing to educate their children about why both chants are offensive and not acceptable in this situation, after the incident. And again, the fact that Edison came from an underdog position and made it to this game, which is quite an accomplishment, has been lost in all the brouhaha. A brouhaha that is centered upon the actions of a handful of tweens chanting for 5 seconds in reply to what some other tweens were chanting for a couple of minutes.

    Must have been a slow slow slow day in the news cycle.
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Actually what they were doing was replying to the equally bigoted "Alamo Whites" chant that the losing teams side of the stands started upon losing the game. They were both wrong. As I stated earlier, I'm more concerned about what if anything, parents on both sides of the situation are doing to educate their children about why both chants are offensive and not acceptable in this situation, after the incident. And again, the fact that Edison came from an underdog position and made it to this game, which is quite an accomplishment, has been lost in all the brouhaha. A brouhaha that is centered upon the actions of a handful of tweens chanting for 5 seconds in reply to what some other tweens were chanting for a couple of minutes.

    Must have been a slow slow slow day in the news cycle.
    None of that was mentioned in the article? I hate the news sometimes. They also failed to mention the Alamo Heights students have chanted USA at all the games no matter who they were playing as well as pep rallys.

    I have to agree, what a waist of time.
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    Re: Racist? Texas high school apologizes for fans' 'USA!' chant after basketball game

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    Nah. What is the point in using ad homs in an argument about what a handful of tweens did for 5 seconds?
    And yet, that's what you did. So, we know you are hypocritical along with the other things about you that I pointed out. Good to know.

    I'm just not that convinced the investment in the issue leads to much that is worth while. Though I congratulate you, clearly you have found my Achilles heal. You making an ass of yourself.

    Imagine my shame.
    Shame would denote that you have taken responsibility for your behavior. We already know that is not the case. Dishonest too.
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