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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yeah, you have to retool, etc. Perfectly normal.
    Retool is usually not going to shut down production except on specific items. Inventory is the biggest factor, and how long an inventory is projected to last. This type thing referenced in the OP is absolutely normal for the auto industry.
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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Well I hope they are looking at excess inventories of gas hogs as well.

    If the price of gas goes bonkers again, the problem for them is probably going to be the gas guzzlers that will go unsold.
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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    As always, there are people around who prefer to kill domestic American energy production of electricity - with slanted bad news like in the OP - in favor of supporting the Saudi royal family and the Saudi oil baron's friends, al-Queda.

    More interesting news about the Volt:

    While we expect critics – including those who for some reason lurk around GM-Volt, and who are being watched for the attitude they project – may pounce on the above statement, GM has said it is still working on rebuilding its damaged image.

    It bears repeating because it is true: The Volt’s reputation was damaged following fictional reports of Volt batteries “exploding” and other extravagant tales. I’m still asked by people about the alleged big fire risk. The misinformation was willfully spread, it didn’t happen in a day, and its reversal won’t either.

    But over in Europe, news is a bit brighter for the Volt’s cousin. They are only doling out perhaps one-quarter the U.S. number of E-Revs, and if GM will extend its policy of matching supply with demand, it should probably think about increasing the Euro allocation.
    This regards the European version of the Volt, the Ampera.

    The company says it is approaching 6,000 European orders, is well on the way toward its (conservative first-year) sales goals, and is taking sales away from premium brands.

    “Our first deliveries are running smoothly and I’m pleased to confirm that our sales target of 10,000 units for 2012 is on track,” said Enno Fuchs, Opel’s e-mobility launch director. “We’re very happy that our European customers can now drive our revolutionary Ampera.”
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    “The majority of Ampera retail customers previously owned top premium brand cars and are making the switch to the Ampera and Opel because they want to be the first to use such cutting-edge technology,” Opel said.
    Volt and Ampera selling relatively well – UPDATED
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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Retool is usually not going to shut down production except on specific items. Inventory is the biggest factor, and how long an inventory is projected to last. This type thing referenced in the OP is absolutely normal for the auto industry.
    I was agreeing with you.
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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I was agreeing with you.
    Oh. Well I will just shut up then.
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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I don't think the idea itself is a bad one... the subsidizing, excessive cost and inability to produce such a vehicle at say $23,000 to $28,000 (28K being fully loaded) is the problem. If that were the cost, the car would sell like hotcakes assuming no major or catastrophic design or mechanical faults existed.
    I agree. As electric cars ago, the Volt seems as good as any. Haven't been around, but if there has been a thread about how the Tesla's "brick", it makes one want to avoid the all-electric, and opt for such as a hybrid Volt.

    The price is still too high, and if at your numbers, would have far better appeal. And that external combusion thing.

    But at least GM made the right business decision now, IMMHO. Inventory, and a bit of a mechanical and image make-over, are needed. I would hope for the day when everyone drives a decent hybrid. Recharged by nuclear and clean-coal

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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Inventory is the biggest factor, and how long an inventory is projected to last.
    It may have something to do with this:

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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The volt is a bad idea.
    It's not a bad idea, it's just new technology. Like all new technology, the first generation or so is a little rough. The first internal combustion engines were abominable pieces of crap, too. Honest to god death traps with poor steering, wooden wheels, wooden spring shocks, little, if any breaks, no mufflers, and they cost a forutune. Toys for rich people, basically.

    However, the technology was a good idea -- even if badly implemented -- and it improved very, very rapidly once the basics of design and production were worked out. We'll probably all be driving electrics in a few decades, and they'll probably be fast and cheap. It's just the early stage technology that's weak.

    How many of us used to dial up to BBS's on 286's? Well, now we have cable modems and quad-core pentiums with 64 bit integer limits, and they only cost a couple hundred bucks. The only way to get to the current machines was through the old ones. The only way to get to high output aluminium small blocks with traction control and electrically actuated ride control was through single piston trash heaps that cost a fortune. And the only way to get to whatever we'll be driving at 40 miles an hour in the left lane with our blinkers on when we're old is through things like the Volt.

    Using electric makes the energy source irrelevant -- something that happens at the electric plant and you don't even know about it. Hyrdrogen, nuclear, coal, fossile fuel, synthetic hydro carbons, or whatever we start augmenting power production with won't matter to the vehicle, as long as it comes down the wire as AC. That's a very, very good idea.

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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I don't think the Volt is really intended to be a "mainstream" car. It's true that the economics of electric cars are not yet to the point where they're cost-effective...but Chevrolet isn't targeting a cost-conscious market when it comes to this car. The target market tends to be environmentalists who want to make a statement about who they are.

    I think it will be several years before battery technology improves to the point where the average consumer can benefit from a Volt or similar type of car.
    Then why exactly are we subsidizing 10k of the sticker? If thats the demographic they dont need the subsidy, they ought to be ready to pay a higher price for a ****in status symbol.

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    Re: Volt production on hold for 5 weeks

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    Then why exactly are we subsidizing 10k of the sticker? If thats the demographic they dont need the subsidy, they ought to be ready to pay a higher price for a ****in status symbol.
    I'm a GM lover and absolutely HATE the Volt. I get that it's a technological innovation, and it's the better of both the long range gasoline and short term electrical worlds, but it is not exactly the eigth world wonder and there could have been better vehicles produced until they got the price and quality right. The car is not selling well and it really is an expensive **** box.
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