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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i really don't see why this is necessary. doesn't a judge have to abide by american law anyway?
    Tell that to the Muslim judge in PA who ruled that it was ok for a Muslim to attack someone mocking Muhammad.
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Tell that to the Muslim judge in PA who ruled that it was ok for a Muslim to attack someone mocking Muhammad.
    Given from what I am familiar with concerning cultural precedent to excuse some immigrants from crimes, the perpetrator would've likely been excused by another court and if not appealed until it happened.

    Members of cultural enclaves in the US have avoided murder charges because of cultural president. It's touchy, strange, and beyond me, frankly.C

    Crime of passion type of thing.

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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    Given from what I am familiar with concerning cultural precedent to excuse some immigrants from crimes, the perpetrator would've likely been excused by another court and if not appealed until it happened.
    And there should NEVER be an excuse for immigrants to break the laws of the US. I have no idea what you mean in the second half of this sentence.

    Members of cultural enclaves in the US have avoided murder charges because of cultural president. It's touchy, strange, and beyond me, frankly.C

    Crime of passion type of thing.
    Again, something that should never be allowed to happen. A man was exercising his first amendment freedom of speech rights and an assault was committed.
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And there should NEVER be an excuse for immigrants to break the laws of the US. I have no idea what you mean in the second half of this sentence.
    the law says otherwise...



    Again, something that should never be allowed to happen. A man was exercising his first amendment freedom of speech rights and an assault was committed.
    Firstly I'm not aware of any injury to the man... secondly there have been precedents (even in the supreme court) whereby culturally certain individuals seem unable to contain themselves when their cultural norms are infringed on to the point there seems to have been exceptions and the crime goes unpunished.

    If an immigrant to the US has a prophet he has been raised on since childhood defaced in public, it has been established that they are beyond their own means of self control (or somesuch_) to commit said crime. Vastly interesting.

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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by MKULTRABOY View Post
    the law says otherwise...
    And any such laws would be pathetic.

    Firstly I'm not aware of any injury to the man... secondly there have been precedents (even in the supreme court) whereby culturally certain individuals seem unable to contain themselves when their cultural norms are infringed on to the point there seems to have been exceptions and the crime goes unpunished.

    If an immigrant to the US has a prophet he has been raised on since childhood defaced in public, it has been established that they are beyond their own means of self control (or somesuch_) to commit said crime. Vastly interesting.
    Vastly wrong. There should not be a cultural excuse to commit assault. Injury is irrelevant as to whether simple assault and battery occurred or not. If I am exercising my rights and someone violates my rights by attacking me, that is a criminal offense and I will not accept any cultural defenses. That is against the notion that everyone is subject to the same laws.
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And any such laws would be pathetic.



    Vastly wrong. There should not be a cultural excuse to commit assault. Injury is irrelevant as to whether simple assault and battery occurred or not. If I am exercising my rights and someone violates my rights by attacking me, that is a criminal offense and I will not accept any cultural defenses. That is against the notion that everyone is subject to the same laws.
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    For want of better descriptors, the atheist said he was hit, the Muslim said he wasn't and barring any reliable evidence either way, the Judge said "Grow up!"
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Tell that to the Muslim judge in PA who ruled that it was ok for a Muslim to attack someone mocking Muhammad.
    The judge was Lutheran....The video is inconclusive as to whether or not a crime was committed. I agree with the judge ruling that there was not enough evidence, and he dismissed the case. That is not the same as saying it is "OK".......
    jus sayin....

    Again, something that should never be allowed to happen. A man was exercising his first amendment freedom of speech rights and an assault was committed.
    Agreed.... even tho the man was being an insulting ass... he has the right to do so. Same as WBC has the right to be jerks at funerals...

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    Firstly I'm not aware of any injury to the man... secondly there have been precedents (even in the supreme court) whereby culturally certain individuals seem unable to contain themselves when their cultural norms are infringed on to the point there seems to have been exceptions and the crime goes unpunished.

    If an immigrant to the US has a prophet he has been raised on since childhood defaced in public, it has been established that they are beyond their own means of self control (or somesuch_) to commit said crime. Vastly interesting.
    Totally false..... nothing has been established that I am aware of. Please cite a reference to a SCOTUS rulings that sets this precedence.
    If there were, the law cited in the OP is even critical than I originally thought.
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    Re: Florida mulls outlaw of Shariah, other foreign laws;

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Tell that to the Muslim judge in PA who ruled that it was ok for a Muslim to attack someone mocking Muhammad.
    cite, please.
    Cause this issue has a lot of people mis-characterizing events to increase the outrage that can be manufactured. So if you could provide some material that let's s evaluate your claim ourselves, that would be nice.
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