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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    yeah, that seat will likely go to a Dem...
    there are 3 GOP senators retiring... the other 2 are pretty safe GOP seats though (AZ, and TX)
    there are 7 Senate Democrats retiring...2 are pretty safe Dem seats, 1 is a toss up.. and 4 have a good change of going GOP.
    ( in total, Dems have 23 seats of for grabs, the GOP has 10)..... and somehow this is a "big blow to Republican hopes"?


    not sure why the author of the article is forgetting to mention retiring Dems when it comes to prediction on who is going to control the Senate... but she should do a better job with her prognostications.

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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    Great for the Dems, bad news for the moderate Republican voices in the Senate.

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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

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    Great for the Dems, bad news for the moderate Republican voices in the Senate.
    It's actually just bad news for Americans. She was an honorable woman who served the people, no matter what her party affiliation was. It doesn't matter whether she's replaced by another GOP or a Dem. It matters if she's replaced by another partisian hack... which is pretty much a given in this political climate.

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    Re: Senator Olympia Snowe to retire

    this is the loss of a stateswoman, not a politician
    while her feet may be small, she leaves huge shoes to fill
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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yeah, that seat will likely go to a Dem...
    there are 3 GOP senators retiring... the other 2 are pretty safe GOP seats though (AZ, and TX)
    there are 7 Senate Democrats retiring...2 are pretty safe Dem seats, 1 is a toss up.. and 4 have a good change of going GOP.
    ( in total, Dems have 23 seats of for grabs, the GOP has 10)..... and somehow this is a "big blow to Republican hopes"?


    not sure why the author of the article is forgetting to mention retiring Dems when it comes to prediction on who is going to control the Senate... but she should do a better job with her prognostications.
    True. I think it's pretty much a trade out retirement for Sen. Kent Conrad of ND which most likely will go Repub this year. I knew that more dems sens were up for reelection than repubs but I don't know much about the vulnerability of seats that are up for election other than these two.
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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yeah, that seat will likely go to a Dem...
    there are 3 GOP senators retiring... the other 2 are pretty safe GOP seats though (AZ, and TX)
    there are 7 Senate Democrats retiring...2 are pretty safe Dem seats, 1 is a toss up.. and 4 have a good change of going GOP.
    ( in total, Dems have 23 seats of for grabs, the GOP has 10)..... and somehow this is a "big blow to Republican hopes"?


    not sure why the author of the article is forgetting to mention retiring Dems when it comes to prediction on who is going to control the Senate... but she should do a better job with her prognostications.
    Even though the Democrats are defending 23 seats this election cycle, a majority of them are in Democratic safe or leaning states. Here is my rundown on how I view the elections:
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    Safe                                       Leaning                             Steals                              
    Dianne Feinstein - California              Bill Nelson - Florida               Claire McCaskill - Missouri
    Tom Carper - Delaware                      Open - Wisconsin                    Jon Tester - Montana                                  
    Ben Cardin – Maryland                      Open - New Mexico                   Open - Nebraska  
    Debbie Stabenow – Michigan                 Sherrod Brown - Ohio                Open - North Dakota
    Amy Klobuchar - Minnesota                                                      Open - Virginia
    Bob Menendez - New Jersey
    Kirsten Gillibrand - New York
    Bob Casey, Jr. - Pennsylvania
    Sheldon Whitehouse - Rhode Island
    Bernie Sanders - Vermont
    Maria Cantwell - Washington
    Joe Manchin - West Virginia
    Open - Connecticut
    Open - Hawaii
    Obviously, that is a very early analysis and depending on whom each party nominates for the general election could change how I view the election. New Mexico and Wisconsin are the two potential to change.

    Now, in order to regain control of the Senate Republicans need a gain of a minimum of 3 senators. I expect that at worst they will be able to win at least 3 seats that Democrats hold at this time. The downside is that there is a real possibility that they could lose elections in Massachusetts, Nevada, and now Maine. Conservatives striving for party purity may be happy that she is retiring, but in the long term this is not going to help them in any way. The margin of error for Republicans just got a lot smaller now that Senator Snowe announced her retirement if they desire regaining control in the Senate.

    With that said, this is a loss for American politics. Much like the disappearance of the conservative Democrat, she represented the last vestiges of the Rockefeller Republicans. The last thing the United States needs is to have fewer politicians in those two groups.

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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    Even if the Democrats take her seat, I think it's a good thing that she goes. One thing that nobody likes is a Senator that cannot be trusted. One day she'll side with Democrats, the next day she'll side with the Republican.

    I echo the other poster who said: Good Riddance!
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    Re: Maine Sen. Olympia Snowe to Retire

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Even if the Democrats take her seat, I think it's a good thing that she goes. One thing that nobody likes is a Senator that cannot be trusted. One day she'll side with Democrats, the next day she'll side with the Republican.

    I echo the other poster who said: Good Riddance!
    She served the people of Maine. No legislator is, or should be, beholden to the party line. If she voted consistently with her conscience and the will of her constituents (read: constituents, as in the people she represents, not just people who voted for her) in mind, that's all that matters
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