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Anonymous Declares War on the US Government

Thunder said:
taking pleasure in the sexual torture of a fellow human being, is disgusting.
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I realize sarcasm doesn't end in "ism" or "ist" but you really should learn the definition of it. It's not necessary to have a smiley face to make a statement that will be considered facetious. Oh, and before you accuse me of being an elitist for using big words like facetious:
Definition of FACETIOUS
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: joking or jesting often inappropriately : waggish <just being facetious>
2
: meant to be humorous or funny : not serious <a facetious remark>
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X Factor said:
Heck, there are some people that should be put in the Special Sodomy Unit of a max security prison. Child molesters spring readily to mind. This is a topic for a different discussion though.
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And people wonder where systemic violence comes from.

Hatuey said:
What if it gets worse? Oh no! Not that! Anything but worse! Wait, You're going to take time out of your downloading to help create a new government you say? Well then all is fine and dandy and we can let it get worse. After all, Anonymous and people like you will help rebuild a new government once this one implodes.
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I think you've trolled this thread enough already.
 
I appreciate that Temporal is actually talking about the OP, unlike virtually everyone else in this thread. DP just seems like a big, self-trolling machine sometimes.

Anyway, I think Anonymous shot its load. I don't think that Anonymous has the ability to overthrow the U.S. government, so declaring that as its objective, I think, is silly. If they did, they ought to have demonstrated their power by doing something major, like the terrorists did on 9/11. Then it would have been more than mere hacktivist rhetoric.
 
Temporal said:
And people wonder where systemic violence comes from.



I think you've trolled this thread enough already.
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I don't really see his statements as "trolling", and I rarely ever agree with him. Just because he doesn't see the dire doom and gloom, we're all gonna die writing on the wall that you're seeing doesn't mean he's trolling when he makes light of your severity.
 
Temporal said:
I think you've trolled this thread enough already.
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Aww I'm sorry - are you angry nobody here is taking the notion of Anonymous being legitimate in their bitching serious?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
No they don't, which in the same term, shows that anonymous is a neutered mob, if they ever become the threat they wish to be, The USG can resort to this sort of rhetoric for extra-constitutional powers as we've seen implemented by the last president, expanded by the current president. they cut thier noses to spike thier face or some such.


Lucky for them, they are actually rather impotent.
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I see what you are saying. Yeah, there is some truth to that, but already with them going after government websites DHS is on this. They don't stand a chance.
 
Redress said:
I see what you are saying. Yeah, there is some truth to that, but already with them going after government websites DHS is on this. They don't stand a chance.
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No they don't not at all. What is something concerning is that because it is a vauge e-mob, who the USG can consider "anonymous" can become dubious. I doubt they would go that far, but at the same time, stranger things can happen. The other side of this coin is by doing this, they could alienate some of thier "members" (members are anyone who chooses to be "anonymous") so that thier "firepower" (hackers and the like) drop off the movement deciding it's not worth the heat.
 
ChuckBerry said:
I appreciate that Temporal is actually talking about the OP, unlike virtually everyone else in this thread. DP just seems like a big, self-trolling machine sometimes.

Anyway, I think Anonymous shot its load. I don't think that Anonymous has the ability to overthrow the U.S. government, so declaring that as its objective, I think, is silly. If they did, they ought to have demonstrated their power by doing something major, like the terrorists did on 9/11. Then it would have been more than mere hacktivist rhetoric.
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I don't think they'll be able to overthrow the US Government or even come close, but don't underestimate these guys. If they are serious, they can probably cause some problems for the government. These hackers are very skilled. Unfortunately, they want to use their skills for all the wrong causes.
 
Thunder said:
keep your disgusting racism to yourself. we don't wanna hear it.
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I'm having a hard time seeing the racism. Care to point it our for me?
 
Peter Grimm said:
I don't think they'll be able to overthrow the US Government or even come close, but don't underestimate these guys. If they are serious, they can probably cause some problems for the government. These hackers are very skilled. Unfortunately, they want to use their skills for all the wrong causes.
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If I were a hacker I'd go into kill shelter databases and change the kill dates.
I'd also share the "secret" recipe for Fogo De Chao's creme brulee.
And I'd go into the payroll system for FoxConn and give every laborer a 150% raise.

Then I'd just screw around on everybody's facebook pages.
 
Thunder said:
taking pleasure in the sexual torture of a fellow human being, is disgusting.
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Weeeeeeeeelll, that all depends on how you define, "sexual torture". ;)
 
Hatuey said:
I didn't say they were necessarily from the Tea Party. There are many right wing groups in the US. Here is some republican saying violent overthrow "is on the table"

Repub: Violent Overthrow of the Gov‘t is ’On the Table’ | Video | TheBlaze.com
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It is true that there are "some" on the right that call for violent overthrow of the government, as well as the left and of course a lot of that kind of stuff was expressed at various Occupy demonstrations. Citing a comment from a failed congressional candidate that was defeated by a democrat in 2010, speaking about the possibility of violent overthrow being a possible "on the table" remedy in the face of tyranny? Not a very good example of the "danger" there. His own party distanced themselves from him for these and other comments and the locals voted his opponent into office. This was all the buzz back in October 2010 after Huffpo made a big splash about how dangerous another "righty" was being. The only violence and public acts of destruction I've seen in that time period were not coming from any of the right wingers you are talking about, but from those other people other posters are talking about. That you keep sidestepping around in order to bring us up to date about dangerous right wingers.

As for Anonymous I too think they are now pretty much done, though I expect they will still be around and up to their hijinks for some time to come. They have pretty much screwed the pooch IMO.
 
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X Factor said:
A violent overthrow of the US government is not something most people would support.
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In fact, it's something that the people would use their 2nd Amendment rights to stop. Folks would definitely going to the cartridge box over that.
 
Thunder said:
I suspect that the more we hear about "violent revolution", the less likely it is to occur.
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i don't know, thunder. i was thinking earlier today that our govt does so much that we don't know about and would probably be horrified by. obama's presidency has not been transparent, as promised. of course, neither were any of the preceeding administrations. everything has gotten so out of hand, people hate others specifically for their political views, that was never the norm in the past. the middle class is losing ground, and yes, the rich are becoming richer.

i can see a real class war coming......because people who have nothing to lose are very dangerous. despite the right wing opinion, most people in poverty don't want to be there, and the middle class is becoming quite resentful of the upper class. not of their money, per se, but of their opportunities. it's a soul deadening experience to live paycheck to paycheck with no way out.
 
It'll be about as effective as the US war on drugs.
 
liblady said:
...i can see a real class war coming......because people who have nothing to lose are very dangerous.....
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our poverty rate is still quite lower than it was in 1958.

so as far as folks who have nothing to lose, we have a lot less than we used to, per capita.
 
Hatuey said:
The issue is that there are SO MANY people who believe the opposite on both sides of the field. It's ridiculous and I wish people like you would have been here in the late 2000s. We had a group of people who were constantly going on about how they'd be ready if the government ever became too oppressive. Really bubba? As if their fat asses would get up for 20 mins from the couch to pick up a gun and go after the military.
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You're forgetting the other side of the spectrum. I believe that people would go to the cartridge box just as readily, if there was an internal overthrow of the government; a scenario where a persident tried to disolve Congress and the SCOTUS, making himself supreme ruler. The people wouldn't stand for that.
 
Gie said:
It is true that there are "some" on the right that call for violent overthrow of the government, as well as the left and of course a lot of that kind of stuff was expressed at various Occupy demonstrations. Citing a comment from a failed congressional candidate that was defeated by a democrat in 2010, speaking about the possibility of violent overthrow being a possible "on the table" remedy in the face of tyranny? Not a very good example of the "danger" there. His own party distanced themselves from him for these and other comments and the locals voted his opponent into office. This was all the buzz back in October 2010 after Huffpo made a big splash about how dangerous another "righty" was being. The only violence and public acts of destruction I've seen in that time period were not coming from any of the right wingers you are talking about, but from those other people other posters are talking about. That you keep sidestepping around in order to bring us up to date about dangerous right wingers.

As for Anonymous I too think they are now pretty much done, though I expect they will still be around and up to their hijinks for some time to come. They have pretty much screwed the pooch IMO.
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The question wasn't so much about who was saying it and what position of power they were in but mostly whether there are people on the right wing who do it. The fact of the matter is that there are. It doesn't make them mainstream but they do exist.
 
apdst said:
...I believe that people would go to the cartridge box just as readily, if there was an internal overthrow of the government; a scenario where a persident tried to disolve Congress and the SCOTUS, making himself supreme ruler. The people wouldn't stand for that.
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we're talking about reality here, not silly fantasies.
 
Thunder said:
our poverty rate is still quite lower than it was in 1958.

so as far as folks who have nothing to lose, we have a lot less than we used to, per capita.
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but the divide is growing very large, thunder.
 
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