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Another School Shooting

SLAMRAAM said:
You have a good point there. If nothing else, then security guards should definitely have guns. Maybe have the school supply kids with tazers?
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school PE should include weapons safety and handling classes and martial arts. My son is a black belt. I met many of the kids in his class. They always refer to me as "Sir"and My wife as "Ma'am or Mrs____ They treat adults with respect and look you right in the eyes when you talk to them. Self Discipline is a most powerful weapon and tool
 
TurtleDude said:
My pro gun credentials are legendary on this board but that is just PLAIN STUPID

Armed teachers and other responsible adults though is a good idea
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Seriously. I support allowing adults 21+ with carry permits to carry on campus, but teenage minors? Hell no.
 
Schools should have airport style gun metal detectors to check for guns or weapons.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
It really hasn't... nobody said anything about the kid... I just questioned how the gun got in the school.
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They don't have metal detectors at my son's high school.


Absent such devices, walking in with a gun is easy.
 
Pinkie said:
Here, in the Cleveland area. One dead, the rest in serious to stable condition.

Chardon High School video shows students being shot in cafeteria | cleveland.com
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I'm glad that the shooter is still alive. It always gets me when they kill themselves because we can't talk to them to find out the motives and get to the causes of their actions. People like this need to be studied so we can get a better handle on how to prevent more shootings like this.

Regardless, this stuff always makes me sad. It makes me sad that kids who had futures and friends and families and plans just die in 1 second because someone decided to take out their anger with extreme violence. All it takes is 1 second for everything to just be gone. But even with the victims in mind, I'm still sad for the shooters for the life they lost and for the fact that their contribution to this world was pain and destruction. It's an all around sick situation and I hope this kid can help (willingly or unwillingly) us understand how to prevent more from happening.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
It really hasn't... nobody said anything about the kid... I just questioned how the gun got in the school.
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Oh, we already got calls for his execution by baseball bat.... but we don't know what his motives were, or whether there are any mitigating circumstances.

Sure, I understand the visceral, first-gut-reaction thing.... I do it too sometimes.... I'm just saying that we don't know much of anything at this point.
 
ThePlayDrive said:
I'm glad that the shooter is still alive. It always gets me when they kill themselves because we can't talk to them to find out the motives and get to the causes of their actions. People like this need to be studied so we can get a better handle on how to prevent more shootings like this.
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Studying "people like this" won't prevent anything. Nutcases just happen to pop off every once in awhile, and you don't typically see it coming until after the fact, when someone says "hmmm- I thought he was acting a little strange lately".........
 
lizzie said:
Studying "people like this" won't prevent anything. Nutcases just happen to pop off every once in awhile, and you don't typically see it coming until after the fact, when someone says "hmmm- I thought he was acting a little strange lately".........
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Well, there is at least some possibility we might find out what his motive was... which might tell us something.
 
Goshin said:
They don't have metal detectors at my son's high school.


Absent such devices, walking in with a gun is easy.
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I didn't say that that would solve the problem or necessarily make it hard. I said it was a great idea, yes.

It couldn't have been too hard since this kid did it and several others have recently. Banks aren't successfully robbed often. Why? Because it's hard to do it.
 
SLAMRAAM said:
Schools should have airport style gun metal detectors to check for guns or weapons.
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the most violent ones often do. of course in really tough schools there aren't many massacres

do you know why? because the second some whining loser who is mad that he wasn't elected Homecoming Queen or Prom Princess pulls a gun he stole from his dad's trunk or office drawer, ten kids are going to shank, shiv or nunchuck his sorry ass to death
 
lizzie said:
Studying "people like this" won't prevent anything. Nutcases just happen to pop off every once in awhile, and you don't typically see it coming until after the fact, when someone says "hmmm- I thought he was acting a little strange lately".........
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This NEVER happened until Columbine. Now it's like a virus, spreading everywhere.
 
Goshin said:
Well, there is at least some possibility we might find out what his motive was... which might tell us something.
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It will tell us something about him, the individual. It will tell us what was making him tick and making his timed bomb go off. It won't tell us what the kid in the next county is thinking when he becomes irrational and ready to blow a fuse.
 
Goshin said:
Oh, we already got calls for his execution by baseball bat.... but we don't know what his motives were, or whether there are any mitigating circumstances.

Sure, I understand the visceral, first-gut-reaction thing.... I do it too sometimes.... I'm just saying that we don't know much of anything at this point.
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Murder is never the answer to any circumstance. If he is mentally ill then it should have been noticed by high school. If he was bullied then something should have taken place to stop this.
 
Another massacre in a gun free zone? No way!!!
 
Pinkie said:
This NEVER happened until Columbine. Now it's like a virus, spreading everywhere.
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It's not like a virus. It's a side effect of our current culture. We have changed dramatically the way we raise children over the past 50 years. We are seeing the results of cultural changes and attitudes toward the basic unit of society, which was once the importance of family and community.
 
TheLastIndependent said:
I didn't say that that would solve the problem or necessarily make it hard. I said it was a great idea, yes.

It couldn't have been too hard since this kid did it and several others have recently. Banks aren't successfully robbed often. Why? Because it's hard to do it.
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Banks are robbed quite often and very easily. It is getting away clean that is a little tricky, but lots of people try it anyway.

Banks that don't get robbed much are the ones with the armed guard.
 
Don't need a gun to kill at school. Some kids tried to off their teacher with rat poison.
 
SLAMRAAM said:
We need less gun control in schools - it should be legal for every kid to take a gun to school - if we did this, then the random nutcases like this guy would think twice about pulling a gun on someone - especially since school security doesn't do anything other than just call the cops and wait for them to come.
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:lamo:lamo:lamo
 
Goshin said:
Banks are robbed quite often and very easily. It is getting away clean that is a little tricky, but lots of people try it anyway.

Banks that don't get robbed much are the ones with the armed guard.
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...Which is proving my point. Those banks aren't robbed because it isn't easy.
 
I may be called a backwoods hick for this, but in my hometown every pick-up in the school parking lot had at least one gun. Almost always a hunting rifle or shot gun and never one incident. Yes, there were bullies and the bullied. But it was handled with fists or teachers. But, then again we were just a bunch of bubbas clinging to our bibles and guns...what did we know?
 
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