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    Re: Another School Shooting

    I found this by googling a couple of minutes ago. It sounds like the kid came from a highly dysfunctional family.

    US school shooting: Ohio shooter picked victims at random, prosecutor says - The Times of India

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    A picture began to emerge of a troubled boy who lived with his grandfather, his legal guardian, after his dad, who had a history of domestic violence and served time in prison, was warned by police to stay away.

    Court records, pored over by the local media, showed both his father and mother had been charged with domestic violence against each other between 1995 and 1997.

    The father was later charged with assaulting a police officer and served time in prison after holding a woman's head under running water and bashing it into a wall, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported, citing court records.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I found this by googling a couple of minutes ago. It sounds like the kid came from a highly dysfunctional family.

    US school shooting: Ohio shooter picked victims at random, prosecutor says - The Times of India

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    Doesn't sound like the kid had a chance to start. It's a shame that others had to suffer.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Court records, pored over by the local media, showed both his father and mother had been charged with domestic violence against each other between 1995 and 1997.

    The father was later charged with assaulting a police officer and served time in prison after holding a woman's head under running water and bashing it into a wall, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported, citing court records.


    Yeah, his problem were likely caused by the right to own guns.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I agree-I was the new kid at a cliquish private school and had the misfortune to come from the other prep school which was girls after 6th grade. but my class was the first coed one at that school in 7th grade but I transferred to the other school's all boys upper school and unlike guys ahead of me-I didn't have any other boys go with me-they stayed at the old school or went on to public schools. So from day one of my 7th grade year I was ridiculed by some (it didn't help that my old grade school had beaten these guys in football the year before) Plus I was slightly built with thick glasses. Fortunately my dad had been the Navy boxing champion and a golden gloves finalist. well one day one of the second string bullies picked a fight with me in the woodshop class run by the wrestling coach who was a fair man and didn't like seeing a kid picked on.


    so he took us both to the nearby matt. he noted that the other kid started it and I had the choice of boxing or wrestling The other kid outweighed me by 30 pounds. So I said boxing

    I nailed the kid with three quick jabs. The kid got mad and charged me and I caught him with an elbow under the eye. the coach grabbed him and tossed him into the corner and then told me to help the kid up and shake his hand (after the bag gloves-we didn't have full gloves-game off) The kid's eye looked pretty bad but he wasn't about to piss of a 230 pound 6-2 wrestling coach. I never had a problem with that guy again and while he went to another school a couple years later we were pretty good friends after that.

    I also didn't get into any more fights after that until the summer of my junior year and that was a graduating senior who was basically the class asshole. I was a blackbelt by then and I am glad I didn't really hurt him-we now face off in court where I have had about 11 cases with him (won 9, settled one, and one is in late stages of summary judgment motions). we never had a problem again after they unwired his jaw
    It almost always seems to work out between guys after a fight. Whether I won or got my ass kicked I get along fine with everyone I ever threw with.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Court records, pored over by the local media, showed both his father and mother had been charged with domestic violence against each other between 1995 and 1997.

    The father was later charged with assaulting a police officer and served time in prison after holding a woman's head under running water and bashing it into a wall, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported, citing court records.


    Yeah, his problem were likely caused by the right to own guns.
    The father seems like a world class prick and the mom seems to be pure trash.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    The father seems like a world class prick and the mom seems to be pure trash.

    maybe executing the parents would be the proper justice

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe executing the parents would be the proper justice
    Possibly TD, they sure didn't give a great chance to their son. They should at least get beat the **** out of in general population for a couple of years.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Banning guns in this country would make crime even worse than it already is. If we had a highly homogenous population with strongly shared values, you might have a point, but gun control in this country would be a huge mistake.
    Quote Originally Posted by CaveatEmptor View Post
    Crime would only increase if you have yet another perpetual cycle involved in finding all firearms as "contraband". Law enforcement, in my mind, already has enough to handle and that they can't handle with the resources being devoted to discouraging certain non-violent activities or illegal substances that pose no harm unless misused, and that are often individualized in potential for harm.
    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    This statement reveals such an utter and complete ignorance of the topic in question that to even respond would be preposterous. We'd have to spend days educating you on basic facts about US and guns before we could even begin to explain to you why you're so wrong.

    I've done this a hundred times.... I'm not in the mood to play to utter ignorance tonight.
    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'm trying to figure out where this supposed "case" is to rest. And what foundation choice this alleged "case" rests on, I think it's somewhere between quicksand and tapioca pudding.
    At least I am not alone here.

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    Obsessed with its search for "common sense" gun control and ever fearful of being perceived as radical, most of the American gun control movement has given up on trying to ban handguns. This has helped create the notion that support for a ban is absent or marginal. However, polling data taken over the past 20 years have consistently shown that more than 30 percent of the public favor a handgun ban with this support ranging at times between 40 percent and 45 percent (even hitting 50 percent in one 1999 poll).41 Nonetheless, many in the gun control movement insist on ignoring the existence of this significant bloc of American voters.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    They still did that once in a while when I was in school. Should have done it more often.

    Young males need an outlet for their aggression, and a chance to respond to bullying and verbal abuse.
    You should wait and see what happens when us broads don't get a chance to get that aggression out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    I don't understand. In my day, the worst I worries about were knives. What happens to make a HS student into a mass murderer?
    In every other case, some form of SSRI type drug was being prescribed to the offender (except where military records were not made available.)

    The comparison would be something between crystal meth and speed in terms of how it affects your brain.

    Though, I'm not anything of an expert I got 25 cents that says he was on some sort of Ritalin or Prozac type of drug.

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