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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    They also need to understand that kids who are bullies are really just miserable kids who are envious, otherwise, they wouldn't have a need to make someone else miserable. When I was a kid, there were plenty of bullies, but we pretty much just ignored their sorry asses. If you go through life taking everything to heart, you'll never find any peace or happiness.
    Wish I could like that more than once. As well the bully tends to be the biggest coward, the big problem is the modern bully tends to recruit, heaven forbid the cowards have to answer for their actions by getting a nice well rounded ass kicking.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    There is also guilt involved when raising a child this way as in if they do something wrong Sky Papa will be pissed. Not to mention the fear of going straight to burn in hell forever and ever.
    For some people, guilt is the only thing that keeps them from screwing up their lives. Unfortunate, but true.

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    This can backfire too and make a kid run away from Christian faith as soon as they are old enough to start thinking for themselves and questioning stuff. Which is healthy. Just my thoughts and no disrespect.
    That's okay to rebel and run away. At least they are thinking about what they've been taught. I've seen plenty of people rebel against their childhood religion, but for the most part, the core values remain intact. That is what is important.
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    Oh, like attracts like. The biggest bullies I have ever seen are old farts on message boards. MEAN and hypocritical old farts. They live for the past, never getting over a slight, always finding an excuse for being assholes and they just love the feeling of power when they have backup for their assinine pileons for perceived slights while always conveniently forgetting what they said or did that garnered them getting exactly what they dished out by the wrong victim.

    Arggg. Sorry. Minor rant.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Enola View Post
    Oh, like attracts like. The biggest bullies I have ever seen are old farts on message boards. MEAN and hypocritical old farts. They live for the past, never getting over a slight, always finding an excuse for being assholes and they just love the feeling of power when they have backup for their assinine pileons for perceived slights while always conveniently forgetting what they said or did that garnered them getting exactly what they dished out by the wrong victim.

    Arggg. Sorry. Minor rant.
    Cyber bullying is a huge topic right now, I'd say it kinda fits. I remember a couple of teens killing themselves over just that issue, the sick thing is the adult PARENT was in on it. GRRRRRR!
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Yes. It seems that is what happened in this case based on what I have read. This kid was an outcast and was bullied. I also read that the school was told about his tweets and ignored it. Shame on the school system for failing to take those tweets serious. So tragic

    I am not saying I approve of what this teen did but it is clear adults failed him and so did his fellowclass mates if they were bullying him.
    So he should be killed within a year by the state?
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    The hell it should not! In clear cut cases where some admit to it and even brag about? They should be killed in at least a year. In cases where you are caught on tape gunning folks down? Death should follow in a swift manner. In cases where your DNA makes it clear you killed someone? Die soon. I am talking about clear cut cases where the is NO DOUBT! You kill another human being? You should die and should not be allowed years to appeal and such either. You did and we know it so you should be dead.
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    You are giving these ego tripping killers way toooooooo much credit. The thing they do not want the most? Is the thing that they did to other humans: DEATH.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Cyber bullying is a huge topic right now, I'd say it kinda fits. I remember a couple of teens killing themselves over just that issue, the sick thing is the adult PARENT was in on it. GRRRRRR!
    You'd be surprised at how disgusting adults are that should know better. I mean, really.

    Then again, I'm really really trying not to light up right now. I'm on my 2nd day of no cig. So taking on a bunch of old nasty assed bitter skanks and assholes is not good for me. Yet I'm not as in control of myself as I'd like to be and keep looking at their idiocy. I need to dump that link.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Studying "people like this" won't prevent anything. Nutcases just happen to pop off every once in awhile, and you don't typically see it coming until after the fact, when someone says "hmmm- I thought he was acting a little strange lately".........
    That's not necessarily true and since it isn't, I'd rather have people to "study" and understand in hopes of understanding the cause of the problem then have only questions.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    It will tell us something about him, the individual. It will tell us what was making him tick and making his timed bomb go off. It won't tell us what the kid in the next county is thinking when he becomes irrational and ready to blow a fuse.
    How do you know? Presumably people who do the same things, have things in common. If we find the common foundation, then we might be able to address it as a country. There is a chance that we won't be able to prevent anything, but I find it pretty unfortunate and potentially dangerous that people like you attempt to shut down any hope to at least try to prevent these things.

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    Re: Another School Shooting

    We always talk about what to do about school bullying, but we don't know what to do.

    Shooting the unarmed in the back is a terrible, cowardly thing to do, but this kid sent a message to bullies everywhere. Be careful who you pick on.
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    Re: Another School Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Pinkie View Post
    This NEVER happened until Columbine. Now it's like a virus, spreading everywhere.

    It didn't? When I was in High School, back around 1980, we had a kid come to school and shoot two others. Afterwards, it was found out that the two who were shot had tortured and harrassed the shooter mercilessly. They had kicked and beaten him to the point that he was sterile. The final event that set it all off was the shooter had worked, saved his money and bought himself a car, the two "victims" destroyed that car. The shooter was not prosecuted, the family was given a new name and moved to an undisclosed city elsewhere in the US. Neither "victim" died in that particular case.

    Whether shooting is justified or not, and I cannot comment about the case for this thread, we don't know enough yet, some kids just get pushed too far. Everyone has a breaking point and everyone can be pushed beyond it, what happens when we go beyond is totally unpredictible. At Columbine, there was a long history of abuses and what some may consider torture of the shooters. Was their actions justified because of it, I don't believe they were, but they were pushed beyond their individual tolerences and choose that method to fight back.

    It is not guns we need to control or violent video games, these are just convenient targets for those who don't want to address the real problems and come up with real solutions. School shootings happened long before Columbine and happen after, they will continue to happen until we find a way to address and rectify the core causes, or at least somehow stear those pushed to extremes to focus on other solutions.

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