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Bolling breaks tie as Senate passes voter ID bill

While probably not as strict, Az has this on the books
Proof of Identification at the Polls
Every qualified elector is required to show proof of identity at the polling place before receiving a ballot. The elector shall announce his/her name and place of residence or present the elector’s name and residence in writing to the election official. The elector shall present acceptable identification that:
1. Bears the name, address, and photograph of the elector (See List 1), or
2.Two different forms of identification that bear the name and address of the elector (See List 2), or
3. One form of acceptable photo identification with one form of non-photo identification that bears the name and address of the elector (See List 3)



List 1 - Acceptable forms of identification with photograph, name, and address of the elector
• Valid Arizona driver license
•Valid Arizona non-operating identification license
•Tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification
•Valid United States federal, state, or local government issued identification

An identification is "valid" unless it can be determined on its face that it has expired.



List 2 - Acceptable forms of identification without a photograph that bear the name and address of the elector (two required)
•Utility bill of the elector that is dated within 90 days of the date of the election. A utility bill may be for electric, gas, water, solid waste, sewer, telephone, cellular phone, or cable television
•Bank or credit union statement that is dated within 90 days of the date of the election
•Valid Arizona Vehicle Registration
•Indian census card
•Property tax statement of the elector's residence
•Tribal enrollment card or other form of tribal identification
•Arizona vehicle insurance card
•Recorder's Certificate
•Valid United States federal, state, or local government issued identification, including a voter registration card issued by the County Recorder
•Any mailing to the elector marked “Official Election Material”

An identification is "valid" unless it can be determined on its face that it has expired.



List 3 - Acceptable forms of identification, one identification with name and photo of the elector accompanied by one non-photo identification with name and address
•Any valid photo identification from List 1 in which the address does not reasonably match the precinct register accompanied by a non-photo identification from List 2 in which the address does reasonably match the precinct register
•U.S. Passport without address and one valid item from List 2
•U.S. Military identification without address and one valid item from List 2

I don't see any major problems with voter ID as long as the State has a way to provide ID to those who do not drive. There should be a method to assist those that are home bound who utilize mail in ballots to get registered the first time.
 
The Republican law makers in the Virginia Legislature could hardly be considered a bastion of common sense lately!

 
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I don't see where anyone is required to pay anything here. Why the comparison to a poll tax? You register to vote. You get a card. (at no charge) and you bring it with you when you vote.

What exactly is the problem here?
 
Only in the eyes of someone on the left.
Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with voters providing ID, but given the past history of some of the groups promoting it, I just don't trust them when when they state that their only motive is preventing voter fraud!
 
Seems to me like everything on the list outside of photo ID are items people could come about with little charge or inconvenience. I would have no problem identifying myself as me when I'm casting my vote in any election.
 
It's less objectionable than most but my standard objection remains: why make it harder to vote when there is no demonstrated problem with current voting requirements?
 
It's less objectionable than most but my standard objection remains: why make it harder to vote when there is no demonstrated problem with current voting requirements?

How is it that ANYONE ever voted without showing an ID in the first place?

That's a better question.
 
Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with voters providing ID, but given the past history of some of the groups promoting it, I just don't trust them when when they state that their only motive is preventing voter fraud!

The problem is there is already voter Fraud..............Here in Washington in King County Seattle dead people and felons vote for the democrat candidate..That is why it is very difficult for a Republican to win a Congressional seat.
 
How is it that ANYONE ever voted without showing an ID in the first place?

That's a better question.

I never have......well, I haven't in a long time. I live in a small town and the poll workers know me. :D
 
There is no such thing as voter fraud, there never has been. All this is is a desperate attempt by the Republican party to suppress voters who tend to vote democrat, specifically low-income blue collar citizens or hispanics who lack proper identification to vote. There is nothing wrong with voter identification laws.... but requiring voters to spend sometimes hundreds of dollars to obtain proper documentation to obtain state issued identification is fraud in itself. Why not implement thumb print scanning systems to identify voters? This would guarantee accurate voting results. Oh yeah, thats right, that would be a free solution, meaning an even playing field for republican and democratic voters. Republicans would hate this idea.
 
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How is it that ANYONE ever voted without showing an ID in the first place?

That's a better question.

No, the better question is, why are they making it more difficult to vote when there's no indication of a problem with the current system?
 
12 million illegal immigrants...no indication?
Guess it depends on which way they are voting.
 
The problem is there is already voter Fraud..............Here in Washington in King County Seattle dead people and felons vote for the democrat candidate..That is why it is very difficult for a Republican to win a Congressional seat.

Did dead people vote or did dead people register to vote. There's a significant difference.

And don't blame your losing candidates on voter fraud when there's no evidence that voter fraud has ever been even .01% of any election. (in the US anyway) That's just plain childish.
 
Young, elderly, students or the poor don't always have ID or an acceptable form of ID as required by these laws. If they are going to require an ID, then make the ID free and available to obtain at more locations than the DMV. ID in Oregon is $44.50. Allow college student ID cards to be used as well. If they are getting along without ID, then demanding it for the purpose of voting, functions as a poll tax.

My state offered ID's for free, to anyone who simply stated, that they couldn't afford one.
People still fought it.
 
I don't see where anyone is required to pay anything here. Why the comparison to a poll tax? You register to vote. You get a card. (at no charge) and you bring it with you when you vote.

What exactly is the problem here?

Give'em a few minutes; it'll be racism.
 
Young, elderly, students or the poor don't always have ID or an acceptable form of ID as required by these laws. If they are going to require an ID, then make the ID free and available to obtain at more locations than the DMV. ID in Oregon is $44.50. Allow college student ID cards to be used as well. If they are getting along without ID, then demanding it for the purpose of voting, functions as a poll tax.

You are gave a voter registration card when you register. It costs you nothing. The law states that it is a valid form of identification.
 
Did dead people vote or did dead people register to vote. There's a significant difference.

And don't blame your losing candidates on voter fraud when there's no evidence that voter fraud has ever been even .01% of any election. (in the US anyway) That's just plain childish.

Can you read? You have to be registered to vote and democrats in King County register dead people and they vote and when they still don't have enough votes the find ballots in trash cans and in peoples cars.......................Picture ID to vote would put a screeching halt to that my left wing friend.
 
Normally, I wouldn't have a problem with voters providing ID, but given the past history of some of the groups promoting it, I just don't trust them when when they state that their only motive is preventing voter fraud!

Which groups would those be?
 
Democrats are the ones fighting this........I wonder why?

There's no mystery as to why Republicans are pushing it or why Democrats oppose it. These laws have been shown to suppress Democratic voter participation.
 
There's no mystery as to why Republicans are pushing it or why Democrats oppose it. These laws have been shown to suppress Democratic voter participation.

That's impossible, unless most Democrat votes are fraudulent, because anyone that is actually registered to vote, has an ID.
 
That's impossible, unless most Democrat votes are fraudulent, because anyone that is actually registered to vote, has an ID.

This point is meaningless. Not everyone is registered to vote, what if its a teenagers first election where he or she is eligable to vote? More than likely he or she is not registered to vote unless he or she owns a vehicle. What if I lose my ID on election day? There are several instances that counter-act your statement. Thumb print scanning system are the only viable solution. You dont need to carry anything on you and you dont need to purchase anything before hand.
 
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Democrats are the ones fighting this........I wonder why?

LOL....Why do Republicans always fight against laws that allow you to register to vote when you apply for a driver's license or ID? Because Republicans do better when less people vote. That just the simple fact.
 
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