Thread: Claim surfaces of Anne Frank baptism by Mormons

Originally Posted by Josie

That's weird, but not something to get angry about.

They are trying to co-op this figure and her Jewishness for their own purposes. That is an element of what occurred in with the NAZIs for an entire people.

Originally Posted by Josie

That's weird, but not something to get angry about.

I dunno, it bothers me when someone says "I'll pray for you" in a condesceding tone, like I can't take care of my own beliefs, or that theirs are somehow superior to mine. Or when they try to "save me" because I don't subscribe to what they believe. This is sort of the same thing.

Originally Posted by Connery

They are trying to co-op this figure and her Jewishness for their own purposes. That is an element of what occurred in with the NAZIs for an entire people.

hmm.. makes me wonder why they also performed a proxy baptism on Hitler and Himmler....are they trying to co-opt their Naziness for their own purposes?

I've been personally involved in 2 proxy baptisms( nearly 20 years ago, when i was a member of the Priesthood in good standing)... it's really not a nefarious deal at all... it's a very lovely service... its basically an attempt to provide the deceased with the covenants required to enter into the Kingdom of God... if the covenants are not needed or not wanted, they can be declined by the spirit of the deceased.

the main reason Jews are against this is because it's against Jewish law to contact the dead...

Originally Posted by taxigirl

I dunno, it bothers me when someone says "I'll pray for you" in a condesceding tone, like I can't take care of my own beliefs, or that theirs are somehow superior to mine. Or when they try to "save me" because I don't subscribe to what they believe. This is sort of the same thing.

and if you find yourself in the afterlife without the proper covenants to get inside the pearly gates.. wouldn't you appreciate someone offering them to you?

or maybe you find yourself already prepared and worthy for entry... and can say " no thanks, i'm good..."

where's the harm?

Originally Posted by Thrilla

hmm.. makes me wonder why they also performed a proxy baptism on Hitler and Himmler....are they trying to co-opt their Naziness for their own purposes?

I've been personally involved in 2 proxy baptisms( nearly 20 years ago, when i was a member of the Priesthood in good standing)... it's really not a nefarious deal at all... it's a very lovely service... its basically an attempt to provide the deceased with the covenants required to enter into the Kingdom of God... if the covenants are not needed or not wanted, they can be declined by the spirit of the deceased.

the main reason Jews are against this is because it's against Jewish law to contact the dead...

What if you don't want anybody acting on behalf of you to enter the kingdom of god?

The reason seems pretty clear. Hello ... would you really want to spend eternity hanging out with a bunch of Mormons? Better import a bunch of smart, funny people to break up the monogamy ... err ... monotony.

Originally Posted by taxigirl

What if you don't want anybody acting on behalf of you to enter the kingdom of god?

then you decline the offer.

Originally Posted by AdamT

The reason seems pretty clear. Hello ... would you really want to spend eternity hanging out with a bunch of Mormons? Better import a bunch of smart, funny people to break up the monogamy ... err ... monotony.

Mormons are generally very nice folks...even to bigots who don't like them.

another reason i'm not a Mormon any more... my capacity to be nice is limited.

Originally Posted by Thrilla

Mormons are generally very nice folks...even to bigots who don't like them.

another reason i'm not a Mormon any more... my capacity to be nice is limited.

Absolutely! But how many times can you watch the same Leave it to Beaver episode before it gets old?

Originally Posted by Thrilla

then you decline the offer.

Can't decline if I'm dead.