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ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

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ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law - chicagotribune.com


States' efforts to curve voting fraud have attracted an outcry from Democrats, but Laura Murphy, the Washington Chapter head of the American Civil Liberties Union upped the ante Thursday when she compared recent voter identification laws to poll taxes and Jim Crow-era laws.

"No eligible citizen should have to pay to vote," Murphy says. "The ACLU believes requiring voters to obtain a government-issued photo ID in order to vote is tantamount to a poll tax."

Murphy argued during a presentation at the National Press Club that the new laws have been adopted by largely Republican-controlled state houses and target minorities in the same way literacy tests and poll taxes once did.


We have gone through so many years in the United States without Voter ID laws, and we now suddenly need them? Voter fraud is not something that is not common in the United States and this seems like an attempt to disenfranchise certain sets of voters. :usflag2:
 
In other news, recent scientific studies have revealed that the ACLU is often full of ****.
 
In other news, recent scientific studies have revealed that the ACLU is often full of ****.
If not the ACLU then pick your source. Several other organizations have filed suit as well, people were turned away from the polls because they did not have ID. Some people cannot get ID because of lacking Birth Certificates for various reasons, lacking transportation to get somewhere to get ID, etc...
 
If not the ACLU then pick your source. Several other organizations have filed suit as well, people were turned away from the polls because they did not have ID. Some people cannot get ID because of lacking Birth Certificates for various reasons, lacking transportation to get somewhere to get ID, etc...

I think having ID too vote is a perfectly reasonable minimum requirement that would do alot to keep the vote honest. The Dem's like too vote early vote often and ID would stop that so they are against it.
 
If not the ACLU then pick your source. Several other organizations have filed suit as well, people were turned away from the polls because they did not have ID. Some people cannot get ID because of lacking Birth Certificates for various reasons, lacking transportation to get somewhere to get ID, etc...


Yeah, look....


It is hard to get by in the modern world without picture ID. Honestly, how many people do you know that don't have some kind of ID?

Voter fraud is a serious matter. It doesn't take a lot of study to see that there may be hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes in every election cycle.

Asking for some ID is common sense and not unreasonable and DOES NOT TARGET ANY RACE OR CREED!

If photo ID is racist then by gosh why do I have to show one all the gosh-darn time!
 
Yeah, look....


It is hard to get by in the modern world without picture ID. Honestly, how many people do you know that don't have some kind of ID?

Voter fraud is a serious matter. It doesn't take a lot of study to see that there may be hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes in every election cycle.

Asking for some ID is common sense and not unreasonable and DOES NOT TARGET ANY RACE OR CREED!

If photo ID is racist then by gosh why do I have to show one all the gosh-darn time!

It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID. Many people who are poor, cannot get ID, etc...

Can you show that voter fraud is a serious problem that needs to be addressed? When and where does it happen? Do people often go and say they are someone else just to get another vote in. I think there is a problem counting votes, but not casting them, unless there is a hanging chad or two. :wink2:
 
In order to be hired you must present an ID and SSN to your employer. Requiring an ID to vote would also give those who don't have such ID at this time the ability to obtain a job. We could kill two birds with one stone. Help to stop voter fraud and help welfare bums get a job. :eek:
 
What a bunch of crap, I like how they claim that literacy tests also "target" minorities, if they focused on real discrimination and injustice most people would have no problem with the ACLU, but this victimhood act is getting old.
 
I am a supporter of the ACLU, but I think they are missing the mark on this one.
Insisting on a photo ID is not an unreasonable requirement. People simply cannot interact in the modern world without a photo ID.
 
It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID. Many people who are poor, cannot get ID, etc...

Can you show that voter fraud is a serious problem that needs to be addressed? When and where does it happen? Do people often go and say they are someone else just to get another vote in. I think there is a problem counting votes, but not casting them, unless there is a hanging chad or two. :wink2:

PJ Media » The Complete Guide to ACORN Voter Fraud

Guess who trained ACORN leaders and represented them in court? Guess who donated $ to ACORN?
 
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It is not necessarily just racist. There are plenty of older folks who do not have birth certificates and cannot afford the expense of getting one and certificates are usually a requirement to get other ID. Many people who are poor, cannot get ID, etc...

How do said elderly cash thier pension/social security checks?
 
I am a supporter of the ACLU, but I think they are missing the mark on this one.
Insisting on a photo ID is not an unreasonable requirement. People simply cannot interact in the modern world without a photo ID.

You are ignoring the elderly, which show up in higher numbers to vote than other age groups. They don't need jobs for the most part, they don't need ID to drink, many do not drive and many have never had to have ID. Where is the voter fraud that requires we ask for ID?
 
all of a sudden I am hearing crickets chirpin.


taxigirl, your socialist profesors have been working on you. I can tell. Do some research on voter fraud and the liberal ACORN organization.
 
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all of a sudden I am hearing crickets chirpin.

When was the last time you needed ID to have a check deposited via electronic transfer?

As for ACORN, there was voter registration fraud, not the actual casting of ballots.
 
You are ignoring the elderly, which show up in higher numbers to vote than other age groups. They don't need jobs for the most part, they don't need ID to drink, many do not drive and many have never had to have ID. Where is the voter fraud that requires we ask for ID?

The ACORN link posted earlier is evidence enough...

The number of potential voters that have no ID and cannot afford ID is miniscule.
If the ACLU and the extreme Left wish to combat the injustice, they could easily help these last remnants of the Depression Era obtain ID.
 
When was the last time you needed ID to have a check deposited via electronic transfer?

As for ACORN, there was voter registration fraud, not the actual casting of ballots.

You had to have ID to open the account.
If there is registration fraud, it is reasonable to expect voter fraud to accompany it.
 
You are ignoring the elderly, which show up in higher numbers to vote than other age groups. They don't need jobs for the most part, they don't need ID to drink, many do not drive and many have never had to have ID. Where is the voter fraud that requires we ask for ID?
Many elderly do drive and many elderly cash and write checks.There is no reason why someone can not get an ID even in states that have people pay for IDs.IDs are not expensive.Seeing how many elderly do not work they have time to obtain a birth certificate from their state of birth. The ACLU is full of **** on this one.
 
Guess who trained ACORN leaders and represented them in court? Guess who donated $ to ACORN?

If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
 
Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.

When you have situations like this..

Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee

The 93-year-old Mitchell voted for the first time in 1931, soon after women gained the right to vote in the United States.

"It meant a lot to me," said Mitchell.

Mitchell worked as a maid cleaning the State Capitol, specifically the governor's office.

She has known governors, legislators and council members personally for decades.

This week Mitchell found out her old state ID with her picture on it is no longer enough to qualify her to vote.

"When he told me I may be in this country illegally, I said I've been over here all my life," said Mitchell.

The state's new voter ID law means Mitchell now needs a birth certificate to get a new picture ID.

Mitchell was born in Stevenson, Ala., in 1918. She was delivered by a midwife and has never had a birth certificate.

Her niece is not sure one even exists anymore.

"She's worked here 30 years," said niece Beverly Jones. "I mean, she is 93. What more would they want?

can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.
 
Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.

When you have situations like this..

Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee



can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.

If you want to argue that the types of ID accepted may make it unfair, your argument has merit. To me, this a totally different topic. Any photo ID that is good enough for a bank should be good enough to establish identification to vote.
 
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