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If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
Why don't you care, thats the question.
If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
If you are trying to explain that Obama had connections to ACORN I concede that, but why do I care?
Many elderly do drive and many elderly cash and write checks.There is no reason why someone can not get an ID even in states that have people pay for IDs.IDs are not expensive.Seeing how many elderly do not work they have time to obtain a birth certificate from their state of birth. The ACLU is full of **** on this one.
You're using individual cases where certain seniors are inconvenienced to justify accusations of broad, sweeping voter suppression. For the vast majority of Americans, a voter ID should not be a problematic request.Problem is often not the idea of voter identification. The problem is that it is often a specific identification that is required, and getting said specific identification is not easy. That is specifically designed to disenfranchise certain segments of the population. It is no different than the racist rules for voting that was present in the south during segregation.
When you have situations like this..
Longtime state employee may be blocked from voting - Action News 5 - Memphis, Tennessee
can happen, then you know that the laws being made are made for denying people the right to vote, instead of making the system safe from fraud. And it is not an isolated situation.
ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law - chicagotribune.com
We have gone through so many years in the United States without Voter ID laws, and we now suddenly need them? Voter fraud is not something that is not common in the United States and this seems like an attempt to disenfranchise certain sets of voters. :usflag2:
I don't think a poll worker would let Fred Flintstone vote.
Minimal voter fraud or suppression from 2009 article. Now we need ID.
Early Voting Fraud: Rhetoric Or Reality? - CBS News
Are you going to vote in the next election? If so you should care. We have to decide which crooked thieving lier is going to lead our nation for the next four years.
If you want to argue that the types of ID accepted may make it unfair, your argument has merit. To me, this a totally different topic. Any photo ID that is good enough for a bank should be good enough to establish identification to vote.
If you are talking to me I do not think that I quoted a story, I provided a link to MSNBC and listed the groups who have filed suits in Wisconsin.I couldn't help but notice that you cut off the quote from the story just before the statement that the Governor is addressing the issue for the people that have been affected adversely.
Seeing how many states do not check for ID or even a voter registration(which many states do not require someone show an ID for) cards all they will do is ask for name and party affiliation and have you sign a sign-in sheet. They hand you a ballot that you mark what you want candidates and or ballot issues you support and put the ballot into a machine with no way of identifying who marked that ballot.So yes they would allow a Fred Flinstone to vote if some guy came up and said he was Fred Flinstone.
Police can command you to identify youreself for no reason at all so I think presenting ID before you vote is going to stand up in court.
Cops can demand ID, high court rules - politics - msnbc.com
If you are talking to me I do not think that I quoted a story, I provided a link to MSNBC and listed the groups who have filed suits in Wisconsin.
Police can command you to identify youreself for no reason at all so I think presenting ID before you vote is going to stand up in court.
Cops can demand ID, high court rules - politics - msnbc.com
No, there is no way to know who marked a ballot, but when you approach the poll workers to get a ballot you have to verify your name and address to make sure you are at the correct polling place. If someone is registered as Adolf Hitler, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I think someone at some point would notice. The city / county clerks have to put your info at the correct polling place so they do see names and addresses.
Nope. I was not talking to you. I just did not get the post in quickly enough.
Are you going to vote in the next election? If so you should care. We have to decide which crooked thieving lier is going to lead our nation for the next four years.
ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law - chicagotribune.com
We have gone through so many years in the United States without Voter ID laws, and we now suddenly need them? Voter fraud is not something that is not common in the United States and this seems like an attempt to disenfranchise certain sets of voters. :usflag2:
I guess there is no way we can ever "know", but I like to think that people are generally good. From all the bad out there that we see on TV etc.. it does not seem like it, but no one tells stories about the scout who helped the old lady across the street anymore.Actually, after every election where Republicans win, the news is awash with stories of alleged voter fraud and "disenfranchisement."
But if you say it's not common, and those stories are bogus, I tend to agree.
No, there is no way to know who marked a ballot, but when you approach the poll workers to get a ballot you have to verify your name and address to make sure you are at the correct polling place. If someone is registered as Adolf Hitler, 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, I think someone at some point would notice. The city / county clerks have to put your info at the correct polling place so they do see names and addresses.
I'm walking down the street, a police officer says "Can I see some ID", I say "Am I being detained?" the officer replies "No", I continue walking.
"Akin to Jim Crow?" Hyperbole much?
My only problem with requiring ID is this: it wouldn't solve voter fraud. It would just mean that you need a fake ID to do it. Fake ID's aren't that hard to get, and any well financed group with a vested interest in the outcome of the election can (and probably will) game the system.
It's also such a small problem. Something like 1% or less of votes cast. It's a solution in search of a problem.
The Republicans insistence on this makes me wonder if it's just that they've already figured out how to game that system. Democrats hate it because they haven't yet.
All this talk of "it'll solve voter fraud" or "it'll disenfranchise people" is all just the partisan BS that the two parties are putting into it. Some of you are buying it hook, line and sinker.
Telling the poll worker a name and party affiliation and the poll worker handing you a sign in sheet is not verification of anything.Verify implies that they made sure that something is correct by way of researching, comparing or examining something. Someone telling you their alleged name doesn't verify anything except that maybe the name they provided matches the one of the sheet, it does not prove who you are.