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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Those are 3 impressive APPOINTEES. Now how about ELECTEES?
    Sure:

    Edward Brooke, former U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, first African American elected by popular vote to the U.S. Senate
    Blanche Bruce, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve a full term in the U.S. Senate
    Jennifer Carroll, Lieutenant Governor of Florida
    Henry P. Cheatham, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
    Oscar Stanton de Priest, former U.S. Representative from Illinois
    Robert Brown Elliott, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    Melvin H. Evans, former U.S. Representative from, and former Governor of, the U.S. Virgin Islands
    Gary Franks, former U.S. Representative from Connecticut
    Jeremiah Haralson, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
    John Adams Hyman, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
    John Mercer Langston, former U.S. Representative from Virginia
    Jefferson Franklin Long, former U.S. Representative from Georgia
    John Roy Lynch, former U.S. Representative from Mississippi
    Thomas Ezekiel Miller, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    George Washington Murray, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    Charles Edmund Nash, former U.S Representative from Louisiana
    Sherman Parker, Missouri state representative, ran for U.S. House of Representatives
    P. B. S. Pinchback, twenty-fourth governor of Louisiana; first African-American governor of a U.S. state
    Joseph H. Rainey, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina, first African American to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives
    James T. Rapier, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
    Hiram Rhodes Revels, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve in the U.S. Senate
    Condoleezza Rice, 66th United States Secretary of State
    Jack E. Robinson III, former U.S. Senate, Secretary of State, and U.S. House nominee from Massachusetts
    Vernon Robinson, former candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from North Carolina
    Joe Rogers, former Lieutenant Governor of Colorado, youngest Lieutenant Governor in Colorado history
    Paul H. Scott, Michigan State Representative
    Tim Scott. Representative, South Carolina's 1st Congressional District
    Noel C. Taylor, mayor of Roanoke, Virginia from 1975 to 1992[6]
    James L. Usry, former mayor of Atlantic City, New Jersey
    Josiah Walls, former U.S. Representative from Florida, and one of the first African-Americans to serve in the U.S. House
    Maurice Washington, Nevada State Senator
    J. C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma
    Allen West, Representative, U.S. House of Representatives (FL-22)

    And some other interesting Black Republicans:

    Arthur Fletcher, official in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and George H.W. Bush; considered the "father of affirmative action"
    Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, editor, orator, author, and statesman
    Alan Keyes, former member of the Republican party and nominee for the U.S. Senate
    Jackie Robinson, baseball player
    Sojourner Truth, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
    Harriet Tubman, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
    Booker T. Washington, educator and activist
    Ida B. Wells, civil rights advocate, co-founder of the NAACP

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Sure:

    Edward Brooke, former U.S. Senator from Massachusetts, first African American elected by popular vote to the U.S. Senate
    Blanche Bruce, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve a full term in the U.S. Senate
    Jennifer Carroll, Lieutenant Governor of Florida
    Henry P. Cheatham, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
    Oscar Stanton de Priest, former U.S. Representative from Illinois
    Robert Brown Elliott, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    Melvin H. Evans, former U.S. Representative from, and former Governor of, the U.S. Virgin Islands
    Gary Franks, former U.S. Representative from Connecticut
    Jeremiah Haralson, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
    John Adams Hyman, former U.S. Representative from North Carolina
    John Mercer Langston, former U.S. Representative from Virginia
    Jefferson Franklin Long, former U.S. Representative from Georgia
    John Roy Lynch, former U.S. Representative from Mississippi
    Thomas Ezekiel Miller, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    George Washington Murray, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina
    Charles Edmund Nash, former U.S Representative from Louisiana
    Sherman Parker, Missouri state representative, ran for U.S. House of Representatives
    P. B. S. Pinchback, twenty-fourth governor of Louisiana; first African-American governor of a U.S. state
    Joseph H. Rainey, former U.S. Representative from South Carolina, first African American to serve in the U.S. House of Representatives
    James T. Rapier, former U.S. Representative from Alabama
    Hiram Rhodes Revels, former U.S. Senator from Mississippi, first African American to serve in the U.S. Senate
    Condoleezza Rice, 66th United States Secretary of State
    Jack E. Robinson III, former U.S. Senate, Secretary of State, and U.S. House nominee from Massachusetts
    Vernon Robinson, former candidate for U.S. House of Representatives from North Carolina
    Joe Rogers, former Lieutenant Governor of Colorado, youngest Lieutenant Governor in Colorado history
    Paul H. Scott, Michigan State Representative
    Tim Scott. Representative, South Carolina's 1st Congressional District
    Noel C. Taylor, mayor of Roanoke, Virginia from 1975 to 1992[6]
    James L. Usry, former mayor of Atlantic City, New Jersey
    Josiah Walls, former U.S. Representative from Florida, and one of the first African-Americans to serve in the U.S. House
    Maurice Washington, Nevada State Senator
    J. C. Watts, former U.S. Representative from Oklahoma
    Allen West, Representative, U.S. House of Representatives (FL-22)

    And some other interesting Black Republicans:

    Arthur Fletcher, official in the administrations of Presidents Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and George H.W. Bush; considered the "father of affirmative action"
    Frederick Douglass, abolitionist, editor, orator, author, and statesman
    Alan Keyes, former member of the Republican party and nominee for the U.S. Senate
    Jackie Robinson, baseball player
    Sojourner Truth, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
    Harriet Tubman, abolitionist speaker and suffrage advocate
    Booker T. Washington, educator and activist
    Ida B. Wells, civil rights advocate, co-founder of the NAACP
    That's an impressive list of 30 elected black Republicans (mayors, state reps., Gov./Lt. Gov) in 236 years of U.S. history.

    However, I never said there were NONE, just not many, so thanks for proving my point.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    But back to the topic of unnecessary voter ID laws...

    The United States Justice Department has rejected Texas' new Voter ID law.

    The department today said Texas did not meet its burden under Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act showing that the law will not discriminate against minority voters.

    Feds reject Texas' Voter ID law - San Antonio Express-News
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    But back to the topic of unnecessary voter ID laws...
    It'll probably all be straightened out for the 2014 elections.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    I was watching a discussion of this topic on Fox a few minutes ago. The idea of requiring a thumbprint came up.

    Now, what's wrong with that idea? Everybody has a thumb, after all... well, there may be a small minority of amputees, but surely provisions could be made for them.

    and no one has to go to the DMV office to get a thumb. God gave us all two of them, along with some inalienable rights.
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I was watching a discussion of this topic on Fox a few minutes ago. The idea of requiring a thumbprint came up.

    Now, what's wrong with that idea? Everybody has a thumb, after all... well, there may be a small minority of amputees, but surely provisions could be made for them.

    and no one has to go to the DMV office to get a thumb. God gave us all two of them, along with some inalienable rights.
    Minnesota's governor and secretary of state are proposing this method:

    With an electronic “poll book,” eligible voters who have lost an ID or no longer carry one could come to the polling place and have their electronic information pulled up from state records, Ritchie said.

    He said about 84,000 Minnesota voters don’t carry photo ID, but in many cases, they would have photos in the state drivers’ database. For those who don’t, another ID could be scanned in or a photo could be taken at the polling place.

    “We would not be disenfranchising anybody and we would not be breaking the bank,” Ritchie said.
    Anyone want to bet that Republicans drop this issue entirely once a method is found to insure voter identification that doesn't exclude a bunch of Democratic voters?
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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Anyone want to bet that Republicans drop this issue entirely once a method is found to insure voter identification that doesn't exclude a bunch of Democratic voters?
    Sure, I'll bet.

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy, replying to Karl View Post
    There you go...true to form...ad hom' as usual. Thanks for your consistency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy, replying to Karl, in the very next post View Post
    Of course another moral to this story is to not put a whole lot of worth in Karl's post. He has a tendency to cherry pick data to support his point regardless how minimally then once confronted pivots to ad hominem…(see I can practice the ad hominem too).

    Maybe a more reputable source for support: [....]
    ROFLMAO, you argument is one ad-hom after another!

    I already told you (and showed you) that the liberal Whigs started the Republican party, but you keep clinging to the 1860's definition of a Republican like my illuminating posts simply didn't exist

    Everyone note that DB's argument depends entirely upon a label. Examining the underlying ideology of the person destroys his argument. Solution? Ignore the underlying ideology and rely solely on the label. One word for that -- ignorant (alternate word -- desperate, if you know that a proper analysis of the facts, in context, will destroy your argument).

    So... which word, DB?

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    I was watching a discussion of this topic on Fox a few minutes ago. The idea of requiring a thumbprint came up.

    Now, what's wrong with that idea? Everybody has a thumb, after all... well, there may be a small minority of amputees, but surely provisions could be made for them.

    and no one has to go to the DMV office to get a thumb. God gave us all two of them, along with some inalienable rights.
    Yes, but mine can never agree on anything... you see, they're opposable . . . . . . .

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    Re: ACLU Leader Says Voter ID Law Akin to Jim Crow-Era Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    One word for that -- ignorant...
    Thank you again for proving my point.

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